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  • From: DSanner106 AT aol.com
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  • Subject: Re: [Homestead] Obama - Energy- Prosperity
  • Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 11:41:59 EST

If the US is importing any natural gas, it is certainly not for lack of
supply, probably
for convenience and cost. We have tens of thousands of capped ng wells in
the US
throughout our oil fields and many other areas as well. It was not
economically
viable to produce and sell as the price has been too low. I can take you to
vast numbers
in Illinois and Michigan that I am aware of , and know there are countless
wells
in Texas, Pa, etc. None of these are included in the "proven reserves"
category as
they were never drawn on and tested, they were considered a nuisance and
added
cost to oil drilling.

As we convert to NG these wells would become viable and be tapped. I had
read
recently that we would have a couple hundred years supply of NG, if we
actually
accessed it all, so I am not concerned with this at all. I don't believe it
would really
last that long of course, and is still just a temporary fix with another
limited supply.

Drew


In a message dated 1/17/2009 11:12:02 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
frank.fries AT imagewireless.ca writes:

As I understand it:
- the US is currently importing some of your natural gas (NG). The US can
not presently produce as much as you are using and you have been increasing
imports.

- Currently the area of biggest growth in the use of natural gas in the US
is generation of electricity. There is only a small amount being used as
auto fuel. There are a number of attributes about natural gas that make it
harder to use as an auto fuel than propane for example, but it can and does
work well enough as an auto fuel once you have absorbed the expense of
conversion of the vehicle and the high pressure pumps, etc and can tolerate
a shorter range between fills.

- The ability to import is controlled by primarily pipeline capacity and to
a lesser extent LNG capacity.

- If the US converted even a small part of the transportation sector to NG
(say 25%), you would not be able to generate enough electricity at present
(unless you start building a lot more nukes and/or windmills and/or solar
and/or ...........)

- Beyond the pipeline capacity, there is definitely a finite amount of NG.
Like the peak oil debate, there is some speculation about exactly how much
there is (anywhere, to say nothing about it being reachable in an area that
is easy to transport from). Unlike oil however which peaks and starts to
slowly taper off producing less year by year, production in conventional NG
wells/fields does not peak and slowly decline. It works more like the gas
tank in your car, you can draw it out at full capacity until you are nearly
empty, then production drops off rapidly and then there is no more
recoverable.

Here is a link to a US govt website with some interesting facts about US
natural gas use, etc ...http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/dnav/ng/ng_sum_top.asp

Frank
----- Original Message -----
From: "bobf" <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>
To: <homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 7:11 AM
Subject: [Homestead] Obama - Energy- Prosperity


I did like Boone Picken's ideas about autos running on natural gas, we seem
to have plenty of that here in this country.

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