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[bobf <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>]

Kalifornia is pinko Kommie state.    Arizonans need A/C.  Kalifornia needs to 
get its budget in order before lecturing AZ, (which also needs major budget 
work after almost eight years of Napolitano and open borders).....

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--- On Sat, 1/17/09, Lynda <lurine AT com-pair.net> wrote:

> From: Lynda <lurine AT com-pair.net>
> Subject: Re: [Homestead] Obama - Energy- Prosperity
> To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Date: Saturday, January 17, 2009, 4:27 PM
> I think, if I remember the numbers correctly, it is the
> ranch home owners 
> that are using energy up the wazoo in Phoenix, etc. 
> Between a/c and the 
> pools, big drain.  And, relatively speaking, Phoenix has
> very few high rises 
> but useage continues to rise.
> 
> The last year I have all the stats on is 2005.  If you take
> 1980 as a base, 
> in CA, the total kWh per capita was 2197.52 and in AZ it
> was 3545.62.  In 
> 2005, the total kWh per capita in CA was 2378.75 and in AZ
> it was 5131.66. 
> And if you want to compare desert state to desert state, in
> NM, in 1980 the 
> per capita use was 1882.58 and 2005 it was 3060.98.
> 
> Now, before folks get their bloomers in a bunch, remember
> that CA has far 
> more high rise apartments than AZ, far more people and a
> whole lot of desert 
> and high desert.  Plus, all of AZ is not Phoenix.
> 
> So, the point is, that just like building for earthquakes
> in CA, Phoenix, 
> et. al., need to build for energy efficiency.
> 
> Lynda
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Marie McHarry" <mmcharry AT gmail.com>
> 
> > It's obviously possible to live in the dessert
> without ac, but maybe
> > not so much in the typical tract ranch house. I worked
> with a man once
> > who had done extensive consulting work in Iran (this
> was a couple of
> > decades ago), and he described the old government
> buildings with their
> > thick walls and ancient system of ventilation as being
> nearly chilly
> > in the summer.
> >
> > I daresay that your typical sealed window high rise
> would be a death
> > trap -- a big oven.
> 
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