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["Lynda" <lurine AT com-pair.net>]

Son #3 used to routinely attend public school for a couple of months here
and there so he could play on the football and basketball teams.  Sooner or
later, some teacher would make the mistake of asking the class questions
about Custer's Last Stand.  And regular as clock work someone would think
they were being cleaver by asking "how many survived at Little Big Horn"
expecting to get in the horse answer.  Son #3 loved to answer with the
actual number and then the war was on!  You'd be amazed at how many history 
teachers believe that no white men survived (52 white men, 1 Indian scout) 
Little Big Horn!  AND, they also believe that only one horse, the enfamous 
Comanche, survived when records indicate that over 30 cavalry, over 15 
American Horse camp horses and various others that were rounded up or were 
later sold/traded by Indians.

Lynda
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "bobf" <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>
To: <homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 1:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Homestead] Political Qualifications?


> I remeber being taught that the muredering , barbaric George Custer was a
> brave 'hero' -- and I attended scholl in ****** (A Southern State).  Was
> Taught that the tyrant Lincoln was one of our great presidents. ( maybe he
> was- but they should have taught the 'tyrant' part, as well.  One thing
> that Lynd would propably appreciate is that in my small town , Southern
> schooling, we were taught to repsect Indians and their 'heros', "Crazy
> Horse", "Sitting Bull", "Chief Bob Ford", "Geronimo", and I can't remeber
> all of the rest.  The Indians had settled most parts of our land before
> they cordially sold parts of their land to my ancestors and others.  They
> wanted to move on to 'greener' pastures, elsewhere, and received a good
> price for their land; Not like the gyping Yankees did to them with
> Manhatten Island and some d*mn tacky Mradi Gras
> necklaces............................................
>
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>
> --- On Thu, 1/15/09, EarthNSky <erthnsky AT bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> > From: EarthNSky <erthnsky AT bellsouth.net>
> > Subject: Re: [Homestead] Political Qualifications?
> > To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
> > Date: Thursday, January 15, 2009, 1:52 PM
> > Lynda, when my kids were in school, you would have been
> > shocked at what
> > was in their history books.  They no longer allow kids to
> > bring them
> > home, so you generally have to go to the school library to
> > read them.
> > The omissions and the revisions are shocking.  Then, you
> > look around and
> > you wonder...what does he think he
> > 'knows'...because he finished high
> > school.
> >
> > Lynda wrote:
> > > I was leafing through a few books at the library while
> > I was waiting for
> > > youngest (she volunteers there) and one of them was a
> > sort of Lies My
> > > Teacher Told Me type book.
> > >
> > > I'm reading away and quickly figured out it was a
> > sort of Christian
> > > apologist book.  However, because of the title and the
> > general method used
> > > to write it, the average sheople wouldn't have
> > noticed.  It was a donated
> > > book and had been well used.  I only spent a few
> > minutes going through it
> > > but was amazed at the "logic" used in the
> > book.  Then thought about how many
> > > people would buy this stuff wholesale.
> > >
> > > Now, before Bob jumps up with and down with giggles,
> > the books starts with
> > > the Pilgrims, I didn't go looking for the white
> > guys vs. the red guys <g>
> > >
> > > According to the book the Pilgrims didn't steal
> > any land from the Indians.
> > > Ah, y'all sitting down?  Wanna know how he comes
> > to this conclusion?  Well,
> > > because the King gave the folks who came here land
> > grants, therefore they
> > > weren't stealing land.  And they didn't really
> > think the Indians were
> > > different.  I mean, forget everything that the gov of
> > Plimoth said in his
> > > diaries.  They just thought they were white people who
> > used too many stains
> > > and didn't bath enough.
> > >
> > > Now, Leslie, there are lots of people who believe this
> > stuff.  So, how can
> > > you be the least bit surprised that they won't
> > believe that the free ride is
> > > going to end?  They choose what to believe regardless
> > of how far fetched it
> > > is.  The old comedy routine about "don't
> > confuse me with the facts" is the
> > > bumper sticker on the Hummer of all the sheople!
> > >
> > > Lynda
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Leslie" <cayadopi AT yahoo.com>
> > >
> > >
> > > WHY? The simple answer is because the fiat currencies
> > of the world are
> > > collapsing.
> > >
> > > "You can not have your cake and eat it too."
> > The US government has promised
> > > a lot of cake - but it already ate all the cake
> > decades ago. Reality comes
> > > crashing down eventually.
> > >
> > > I just got done reading a long article about chaos and
> > change by Dr. Petrov,
> > > from the Prince Sultan University, Riyadh, Saudi
> > Arabia. It is long but very
> > > good... and to sum it up, the global monetary system
> > is at a critical
> > > juncture, fast approaching a breakpoint - the point
> > where the whole system
> > > either explodes or implodes at lightning speed - it is
> > a chaos transition
> > > point.
> > >
> > > People like the blacksmith you mentioned sense the
> > unfolding chaos. They
> > > know something is wrong, but don't know what. Just
> > about everyone alive
> > > today has lived under a lie - under a fiat money
> > system. They have no basis
> > > of reasoning - no knowledge - to understand the lie,
> > acknowledge it is a
> > > lie, and that the reality of the outcome of the lie is
> > responsible for the
> > > unfolding chaos they sense.
> > >
> > > Attempts to educate people about the lie are meet with
> > denial of reality -
> > > because people want to have their cake and eat it too.
> > They do not
> > > understand the piece of paper in their wallets is
> > worth more as toilet
> > > paper - it is not wealth in any form.
> > >
> > > They just know something is wrong. Without a basis of
> > economics, or an
> > > understanding of the function of money (both the lies
> > of fiat currency and
> > > that outcome, and the gold standard and the morality
> > required to uphold it),
> > > irrational explanations are given - such as the belief
> > that a comet is on
> > > the way and the government knows it - as an attempt to
> > explain that which
> > > they either don't understand, certainly were never
> > taught, or refuse to
> > > believe if one makes an attempt to explain it to them.
> > >
> > > The reason the government is spending money out of
> > control - is quite
> > > simple. The government politicians made trillions in
> > promises long term to
> > > citizens for their short term political gains. The
> > bills are coming due (in
> > > the form of Treasuries maturing) and they didn't
> > save the money to pay....
> > > therefore they print the money out of thin air.
> > >
> > > The real estate and other bubbles didn't happen by
> > accident either. Pension
> > > funds (government and private) need to get a 6% return
> > (promised).... but
> > > when "safe" interest rates on Treasuries are
> > low (i.e. 1% back in the
> > > Greenspan days) the fund managers MUST resort to
> > riskier investments, which
> > > then snowballs.
> > >
> > > In an attempt to keep the party going, the misguided
> > Fed is printing money
> > > to bail-out everyone that they favor. Ha, GMAC was
> > bailed out, and became a
> > > bank. GMAC borrows from the Fed at 1/4% interest, and
> > loans out $ at
> > > 0%............. hello, guaranteed 1/4% loss on the
> > interest spread
> > > alone....... is this logical??? It is a bankrupt idea
> > of fools.
> > >
> > > The snowball has grown to the size that the government
> > can not prevent
> > > collapse,,,, but I seriously doubt that more than a
> > handful of our electeds
> > > have any understanding of the monetary forces in play.
> > >
> > >
> > > You wrote the man you spoke about indicated: "The
> > powers that be
> > > won't alert the public and cause mass panic, but
> > since the
> > > 'discovery' was made, there has been an
> > attitude of apathy develop about the
> > > problems in this country. He did not think that
> > everyone guilty of
> > > apathy or dishonesty was in on the secret, but that
> > over time the crap
> > > has risen to the surface because no one wants to put
> > in the energy to
> > > fix problems. "
> > >
> > > True - the government will not alert the public - if
> > they did it would be
> > > game over instantly, and the politicians would lose
> > their perceived power.
> > > And mass panic - definitely.
> > >
> > > What was discovered? Their unsound monetary concepts
> > failed.
> > >
> > > In on the secret? They don't even recognize the
> > source of the problem.
> > >
> > > Fix the problems? Oh they are trying tons of ways to
> > fix the unfixable....
> > > If they would acknowledge the problem is not fixable
> > they would put their
> > > energy into return to a system that works. They will
> > never choose the path
> > > that requires voluntarily. Only through natural
> > economic forces will it be
> > > forced on the government.... chaos and collapse of the
> > existing system.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- On Wed, 1/14/09, EarthNSky
> > <erthnsky AT bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > About the absurdity of what is going on in this
> > country and maybe the
> > > rest of the world...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > persistence. Talent will
> > not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with
> > talent. Genius
> > will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education
> > will not; the
> > world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and
> > determination alone
> > are omnipotent. The slogan 'press on' has solved
> > and always will solve
> > the problems of the human race"
> >
> > ~ Calvin Coolidge
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