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["Lynda" <lurine AT com-pair.net>]

I think folks need to not throw *either* baby out with the bath water, so to 
speak.  Diet and exercise are key.  And that evil thing that James hates is 
also part and parcel, genetics.

However, education is the real healer.  Education on what?  On BOTH types of 
medicine.  On your own personal body and MIND!  Education on what surrounds 
you.

DH is a cancer survivor.  Stage III colon cancer.  His fault it went to 
Stage III.  He refused to see a doc and get a colonoscopy early on even 
though his father had died as a result of the same cancer.  He finally went 
to the local clinic and listened to some DA/FNP until I was livid and hauled 
him kicking and screaming to the ER where he needed 2 pints of blood.

Although, subliminally, I knew that plastics and teflon weren't good things, 
I had become sloopy/lazy what with living in the city and just kinda going 
through life on autopilot.

I used my old access codes to get into everything medical and hounded 
relatives and ex-coworkers.  I tossed everything out of the house that 
wasn't glass, cast iron or stainless steel.  Everything packaged and 
non-organic went next.  The local food bank got a real haul!

I went up river to the herbalist.  Then he and I put together a plan that 
combined Western and natural/alternative medicine.  All organic foods, lots 
of raw foods, vitamins, herbs, exercise plus chemo (NOT pushes) and 
radiation therapy.

The tumor was 21 cm!  It was less than 4 when he had the surgery.  He does 
not have a colostomy which they told him he would have to have.  He has not 
had so much as a pulup since.

He's been written up in medical journals along with the program that we put 
together.

Had the tumor been smaller and not been through the colon wall and attaching 
itself to other organs, we wouldn't have gone with the chemo and radiation. 
In his case, using both types of medicine was the ideal.

There is no one-size-fits-all <g>

Lynda
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <Clansgian AT wmconnect.com>
> I don't find myself agreeing with this.  Swayze is a good example.  Almost
> every time I've encountered someone who says "Alternative medicine .... I
> dunno...."  they are still engaging in the behavior that caused or 
> contributed to
> their problems in the first place.
>
> Now by alternatives, I don't mean invasive allopathic remedies that just
> happen to be herbal or natural.
>
> This is anecdotal but illustrative.  A fellow a very few years younger 
> than
> me who was one of the research supervisors at the phamaceudical facility 
> where
> I had a gig had a terrible lifestyle of horrible nutrition and no physical
> activity.  He was hugely overweight.  He developed cancer urinary tract 
> cancer
> and when he had recovered somewhat from the chemotherapy (that left him 
> much
> sicker), he drew me aside and quizzed me about my views on nutrition and 
> health.
> Now this was a PhD biochemist, licensed pharmacist, with a strong medical
> background.
>
> He had me bring him raw milk.  I gave him sacks of steel cut oats from my
> stash and brought him all and sundry from the garden.  I personally 
> introduced
> him to the produce stand owners (a produce stand less than a mile from 
> where he
> lived).
>
> His health improved dramatically.  He lost weight, lost the palor, put a
> spring in his step, and all his cancer screenings came back negative. 
> Then the
> pharmaceutical industry hit a turn in the road and the facility began 
> fighting
> for its existence.  He became distracted and after a year and a half, I 
> saw the
> grocery store hogie sandwich and diet sprite on his desk beside the box of
> twinkies.  He gained weight, turned an ashen color, slowed down.  And six 
> months
> later he died when the cancer came back with an acute vengeance.
>
> If this were the only instance with which I was acquainted, I'd write it 
> off
> as coincidence.  But it isn't.
>
> The only way I'd ammend Lynn's statement would be "almost all" rather than
> "some".  Maybe to the point of saying that you can find an isolated 
> instance
> here and there where it isn't true, but those are themselves probably 
> flukes.
>
> I'm a bit testy on this point because I've lost several friends who were
> given that sachel of pills, A to treat  some condition, B to counteract 
> the side
> effects of A, C to counteract the effects of B, D to counter act the 
> effects of
> taking A and C in combination, and E just for the heck of it.
>
> It killed them.  Two of them had prostate cancer.  Although the research 
> is
> astoundingly clear that regular consumption of soybeans thwarts the 
> ability of
> prostate tumors to grow, not one time did a physician or oncologist 
> recommend
> that or even seem to know it.  They didn't die of prostate cancer, but the
> doctor said that in order for them to take the recommeded medicines, they 
> had to
> have blood pressure medicind, cholesterol medicine, etc. etc. to counter 
> the
> side effects.  They died of heart attacks or stroke.
>
> The examples of people staying with AMA medicine but not giving up the
> underlying destructive habits is not example of the benefit of such 
> medicine.
>
>
>
> James
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