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  • From: bob ford <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>
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  • Subject: Re: [Homestead] Our digital trail - "Orwellian future"
  • Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 13:27:15 -0800 (PST)

Voluntarily, hmmm. Like driving. remember the article I posted a couple of
days ago , one cop can tape and record for perpetuity 8000 car licenses an
hour. Soon, they monitors will not be held by cops, but placed every so
often on a freeway or road system, your every travel will be recorede.

This is not science fiction; it is happening now. Why should I pay over
$2.00 lb. for frozen chicken when the store has it for 59 cents lb with the
store card. Should I be required to pay triple or quadrupluble just for the
exact same anonymity we all took for granted just a few years ago?

When Marie makes a post, like she did last week, about her experiences with
radioactive waste in Illinois being stored in pole buildings, and I do a
"search" out of curiosity to see if they are still doing it, and if they do
the same in other states, is my name and IP # put in a database in case
something happens at one of those storage facilities. Am I not allowed to be
curious?

If I go to the Indian Casino every once in a while and cash in my chips for
cash, why is every "cash out" recorded with my nmae and required ID, and the
minute I hit $10,0001 , the IR S gets a letter to watch me for m*ney
l*undering? 'Not' for reporting gambling income, but for possible "mon*y l
*undering.

And all of these systems are run by beauracrats, some morons, some not; 'just
doing their jobs'. The system is answerable to no one. It is much as
dealing with a lunatic................

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--- On Sun, 11/30/08, Lynn Wigglesworth <lynnw1366 AT hotmail.com> wrote:

> From: Lynn Wigglesworth <lynnw1366 AT hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Homestead] Our digital trail - "Orwellian future"
> To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Date: Sunday, November 30, 2008, 2:00 PM
> I just wonder how they link all this information to a
> person. It has to be
> through something you do voluntarily, like use a credit
> card, or a store
> card. or a cell phone. If I didn't want someone knowing
> what I'm doing, I'd
> pay cash and not give my name. Maybe loss of privacy is the
> price of using
> cell phones, credit cards, airplanes etc...all are a
> choice.
>
> Lynn Wigglesworth
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "bob ford" <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>
> To: <homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 3:49 PM
> Subject: Re: [Homestead] Our digital trail -
> "Orwellian future"
>
>
> > Yes, they store the info, and it is already being
> used. I know you don't
> > believe in using credit cards, but the items you
> purchas using your store
> > (BiLo) card is connected to your credit card if you
> have ever used your
> > crwedit card together with that card, even once. If
> you buy a lot of
> > booze, it can negatively affect your credit, right
> now. If you use you CC
> > to gamble, buy lots of porn, other vice type
> activities will immediately
> > affect your credit. Not all of us are churchmarms and
> it isn't anyone's
> > damn business. I don't do those things myself,
> but if I wanted to , why
> > should it be anyone's business, but mine.
> >
> > If you buy cigarettes, alot of booze and ice cream, I
> have read that
> > comapnies with the help of insurance companies can
> ferret out that
> > information when determining your candidacy for a job
> or you apllication
> > for health or life insurance. My own insurance agent,
> when I started
> > smoking again (before I quit this last time) told me
> to always buy my
> > cigarettes with cash, and never to use a store card,
> so there would be no
> > record of the cigarette purchases (he knew I was
> planning to quit again).
> >
> > If someone sues you, their lawyer can ask for almost
> any kind of records,
> > no matter how trivial they appear. They can also ask
> for your spouses
> > records. It is not funny when it happens to you. It
> can be used just to
> > bully and harass you ................bobford
> >
> >
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >
> > --- On Sun, 11/30/08, Lynn Wigglesworth
> <lynnw1366 AT hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> From: Lynn Wigglesworth
> <lynnw1366 AT hotmail.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [Homestead] Our digital trail -
> "Orwellian future"
> >> To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
> >> Date: Sunday, November 30, 2008, 1:36 PM
> >> > Maybe you will be lucky, and it will never
> happen to
> >> you. With the data
> >> > being collected they can subpoena your d*mn
> life.
> >> Everything is recorded.
> >> > If 'they' don't care about my
> data, why do
> >> they then harvest and record my
> >> > data for perpetuity?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> Do they store all this info? I can understand why
> they need
> >> the info
> >> connected to my employment (since I'm
> self-employed,
> >> they only know what I
> >> tell them...they don't even have little
> check-off boxes
> >> for half of what I
> >> do) and SS number, or my Drivers' License.What
> else do
> >> they track? Do they
> >> tap into my BiLo Wildcard and know that I eat
> oatmeal for
> >> breakfast? It's
> >> hard to imagine that there is some central
> database
> >> somewhere that cares
> >> about the minutiae of my life. The important
> things in my
> >> life, no one knows
> >> but me.
> >>
> >> Lynn Wigglesworth
> >> Tioga Co. PA
> >>
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