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  • From: EarthNSky <erthnsky AT bellsouth.net>
  • To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [Homestead] Homestead Digest, Vol 51, Issue 131
  • Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 14:56:03 -0400

I KNEW you were still around, Frank! Glad to see you de-lurk!
The walnut trees-were they planted in 1999 as well?
How old and how large(diameter) are the trees?
Great timing on this post!
Oh, and the source of those failed trees?
Bev

franksfarm AT aol.com wrote:

Just as a follow up to my email of 1999. many of the trees I actually
planted didn't make it due to extreme weather conditions -especially
drought, and flash floods.Plus some idiot, who was trespassing ran
right over many of the just starting seedlings,which never recovered.


I now have a good number of producing walnut trees but you only get
$12 a hundred weight for de-hulled walnuts. Lots of work for little
return.

I have a few persimmons, but hardly get to the "sweet" fruit since
it's a favorite of so much wildlife:)

Best to all. Frank











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Today's Topics:

1. Re: Palm scan ID -Privacy dissappearing (bob ford) 2. Re: Tree
protection and fencing (Robert Walton) 3. Re: FRANKS' Feb 99 Walnut
trees (Robert Walton) 4. Guns in China (bob ford) 5. Re: FRANKS' Feb
99 Walnut trees (Lisa K.V. Perry) 6. DIY Solar Powered Jack-o-Lantern
(bob ford) 7. Strawbale & Mud in Texas (bob ford) 8. more trees
(EarthNSky) 9. Re: more trees (bob ford) 10. Re: FRANKS' Feb 99
Walnut trees (EarthNSky)


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Message: 1 Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 17:02:46 -0700 (PDT) From: bob ford
<bobford79 AT yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Homestead] Palm scan ID -Privacy
dissappearing To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org Message-ID:
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It could be okay, maybe, until your digital credit (money) is linked
to your palm print (easier & safer than carrying a wallet); your palm
print is used for a new smart gun, which is inoperable without the
print, and records every usage with the print; and until doors will
not open for you (literally and figuratively), without the scan. It
is always the unintended consequences.............bobford


--- On Mon, 10/13/08, Lynn Wigglesworth <lynnw1366 AT hotmail.com>
wrote:

From: Lynn Wigglesworth <lynnw1366 AT hotmail.com> Subject: Re:
[Homestead] Palm scan ID -Privacy dissappearing To:
homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org Date: Monday, October 13, 2008, 5:58 PM
Is this really much different than checking a drivers license or
other photo ID? Except that it's harder to falsify.

bob ford wrote:
Already using in florida, carolina,elsewhere & and
nationwide for gmat testing......bobford

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Palm scans called next step for IDs

Already used by hospitals to stop fraud

"Japanese technology giant Fujitsu began
developing palm-scanning techniques in the mid-'90s after
researching several biometric techniques including iris and
fingerprint scanning.
Palm scanners use near-infrared light to reveal the
unique pattern of veins in a person's hand, which show up as a
black pattern, each unique."



http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/oct/11/palm-scans-called-next-step-for-ids/



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Message: 2 Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 20:35:17 -0400 From: "Robert
Walton" <waltonrp AT gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Homestead] Tree protection
and fencing To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org Message-ID: <86fab8600810131735m430f2bf1o9b418a7b35d46dc3 AT mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Thanks for mentioning that. I never thought to do that and hate to
see trees damaged when I nail to them, which I do a lot.

Rob - Va

On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 3:58 PM, EarthNSky <erthnsky AT bellsouth.net>
wrote:
I forgot to mention something in my previous post.. When we built
the buckpen, we ran field fencing through the woods, using trees as
posts where we could, t-posts elsewhere. To prevent excess tree
damage, we ran a 2x4 vertically along the tree trunks and it was attached to the tree with a few nails. The fencing was then
attached to the 2x4. The pen was about 7 or 8 years old, and we
had no tree damage despite the fact that many of the trees had
grown. When we pulled off the 2x4, you could see an impression,
but in a few years, that will be gone. We left no metal in the
trees. Just thought I would mention this.

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Message: 3 Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 20:42:18 -0400 From: "Robert
Walton" <waltonrp AT gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Homestead] FRANKS' Feb 99
Walnut trees To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org Message-ID: <86fab8600810131742r7913fa02weba7b81e81ca431e AT mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

I think I remember that post. Wow. It would be nice to hear from Frank. Didn't he pop in a year or so ago?

Rob - Va

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FranksFarm AT aol.com wrote:

Hey Bev

<,I got over 100 chestnut oaks, over 100 white oaks, about 10
Loblolly

pines, about 10 persimmons, and about 50 redbuds! Looks like I
will be

busy for quite a while planting trees!!!

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Message: 4 Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 17:49:15 -0700 (PDT) From: bob ford
<bobford79 AT yahoo.com> Subject: [Homestead] Guns in China To:
homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org Message-ID:
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The Chinese banned guns in China 40 years ago for fear of political
dissent, using children breaking a window in a gov't building as
excuse. This is from tomorrow's paper. On the left there is a
place to click for a video . It is an interesting story
....................... ----------------------------------------------------------------------


"OCTOBER 14, 2008

Staring Down the Barrel: the Rise of Guns in China

In a Nation that Bans Guns and Celebrates Them, Armed Criminals and
Hunters Pose New Problems for Authorities

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122394012224530655.html#video%3D





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Message: 5 Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 21:21:44 -0400 From: "Lisa K.V.
Perry" <lisakvperry AT gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Homestead] FRANKS' Feb
99 Walnut trees To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org Message-ID: <a37e31f0810131821g19c4a3c1t97a6994deb8e01f6 AT mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

On 10/13/08, Robert Walton <waltonrp AT gmail.com> wrote:
I think I remember that post. Wow. It would be nice to hear from Frank. Didn't he pop in a year or so ago?


I remember that post as well. I thought he was nuts to plant so many
trees, now I'm surrounded by a forest on 36 acres and completely
understand. Darn AEP cut down our lone persimmon in the go-around
before last when they were clearing trees by power lines (it wasn't
very close, but they leveled it anyway). I was not home and was
furious when I came home from work to find it gone. The previous
owner planted that tree and we were learning what to do and how to
eat persimmons.

My goodness but almost 10 years went by fast. Let's try to make the
next 10 slow down a bit. Maybe if we collectively try ... ?

lkvp

FranksFarm AT aol.com wrote: Hey Bev I got over 100 chestnut
oaks, over 100 white oaks, about 10 Loblolly pines, about 10
persimmons, and about 50 redbuds!


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Message: 6 Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 18:23:03 -0700 (PDT) From: bob ford
<bobford79 AT yahoo.com> Subject: [Homestead] DIY Solar Powered
Jack-o-Lantern To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org Message-ID:
<242030.79847.qm AT web53911.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type:
text/plain; charset=utf-8

" In preparation for Halloween, I was looking for a project that I
can do which combines ?unpluggedliving? and Halloween. I then
thought of doing a solar powered jack-o-lantern. I think that
would be a simple yet cool project. Definitely, somebody has done
this already so I?ld better check trusty old google for a solar
powered jack-o-lantern.

I found 2 DIY solar powered jack-o-lantern projects in
instructables.

http://www.instructables.com/id/Solar-Powered-jack-o-lantern/ http://www.instructables.com/id/The-Solar-Powered-Jack-o-Lantern!-yay


The idea is to use one of those solar garden lights and dismantle it
to use the solar cell, battery, and light bulb (usually LEDs). The
typical light on a solar garden light is ?white? so it would probably
look better if you put in a ..........................."



http://www.unpluggedliving.com/diy-solar-powered-jack-o-lantern/





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Message: 7 Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 18:31:37 -0700 (PDT) From: bob ford
<bobford79 AT yahoo.com> Subject: [Homestead] Strawbale & Mud in Texas To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org Message-ID:
<574170.63865.qm AT web53903.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type:
text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Sage, I don't know if this is one of the people you know, Texas is
big, so probably a lot of strawbale builders. I found this on
Treehugger.com ...bobford -------------------------------------------------------------------- This strawbale builder is Nick Moser

"In addition to holding out through Hurricane Ike, straw bale homes
have received good reviews with respect to withstanding fires. The
natural materials result in excellent heating and cooling properties.
And the do-it-yourself aspect means you will have a home tailored to
your concept of cool house design."


http://www.treehugger.com/files/2008/10/how-to-straw-bale-house.php





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Message: 8 Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 22:07:52 -0400 From: EarthNSky
<erthnsky AT bellsouth.net> Subject: [Homestead] more trees To:
Homestead List <homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org> Message-ID:
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charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Does anyone have Tvo's Paulownia post?


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