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 Hello everyone:)

This is Frank. Nice to hear your comments.

Unfortunately, I now get so many emails, and have so much to do that I mostly 
just scan, or delete the Digests now.

I must get 200+ emails a day, or so it seems:)

I hope that in these difficult all are OK. But I must say that given our 
homesteading outlook we are far more independent, and frugal that we are 
hopefully in better shape than most.

After all if you spending is modest , you can stretch your income. Food, and 
gas prices hurt.

I've cut way down on trips to town:) 

Just as a follow up to my email of 1999. many of the trees I actually planted 
didn't make it due to extreme weather conditions -especially drought, and 
flash floods.Plus some idiot, who was trespassing ran right over many of the 
just starting seedlings,which never recovered.

I now have a good number of producing walnut trees but you only get $12 a 
hundred weight for de-hulled walnuts. Lots of work for little return.

I have a few persimmons, but hardly get to the "sweet" fruit since it's a 
favorite of so much wildlife:)

Best to all. Frank






 


 

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   1. Re: Palm scan ID -Privacy dissappearing (bob ford)
   2. Re: Tree protection and fencing (Robert Walton)
   3. Re: FRANKS' Feb 99 Walnut trees (Robert Walton)
   4. Guns in China (bob ford)
   5. Re: FRANKS' Feb 99 Walnut trees (Lisa K.V. Perry)
   6. DIY Solar Powered Jack-o-Lantern (bob ford)
   7. Strawbale & Mud in Texas (bob ford)
   8. more trees (EarthNSky)
   9. Re: more trees (bob ford)
  10. Re: FRANKS' Feb 99 Walnut trees (EarthNSky)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 17:02:46 -0700 (PDT)
From: bob ford <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Homestead] Palm scan ID -Privacy dissappearing
To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
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It could be okay, maybe, until your digital credit (money) is linked to your 
palm print (easier & safer than carrying a wallet); your palm print is used 
for 
a new smart gun, which is inoperable without the print, and records every 
usage 
with the print; and until doors will not open for you (literally and 
figuratively), without the scan.  It is always the unintended 
consequences.............bobford


--- On Mon, 10/13/08, Lynn Wigglesworth <lynnw1366 AT hotmail.com> wrote:

> From: Lynn Wigglesworth <lynnw1366 AT hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Homestead] Palm scan ID -Privacy dissappearing
> To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Date: Monday, October 13, 2008, 5:58 PM
> Is this really much different than checking a drivers
> license or other 
> photo ID? Except that it's harder to falsify.
> 
> bob ford wrote:
> > Already using in florida, carolina,elsewhere & and
> nationwide for gmat testing......bobford
> > 
> >
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Palm scans called next step for IDs
> > 
> > Already used by hospitals to stop fraud
> > 
> > "Japanese technology giant Fujitsu began
> developing palm-scanning techniques in the mid-'90s
> after researching several biometric techniques including
> iris and fingerprint scanning. 
> > 
> > Palm scanners use near-infrared light to reveal the
> unique pattern of veins in a person's hand, which show
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> http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/oct/11/palm-scans-called-next-step-for-ids/
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 20:35:17 -0400
From: "Robert Walton" <waltonrp AT gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Homestead] Tree protection and fencing
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Thanks for mentioning that. I never thought to do that and hate to see
trees damaged when I nail to them, which I do a lot.

Rob - Va

On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 3:58 PM, EarthNSky <erthnsky AT bellsouth.net> wrote:
> I forgot to mention something in my previous post..
> When we built the buckpen, we ran field fencing through the woods, using
> trees as posts where we could, t-posts elsewhere.  To prevent excess
> tree damage, we ran a 2x4 vertically along the tree trunks and it was
> attached to the tree with a few nails.  The fencing was then attached to
> the 2x4.  The pen was about 7 or 8 years old, and we had no tree damage
> despite the fact that many of the trees had grown.  When we pulled off
> the 2x4, you could see an impression, but in a few years, that will be
> gone.  We left no metal in the trees.  Just thought I would mention this.
>
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 20:42:18 -0400
From: "Robert Walton" <waltonrp AT gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Homestead] FRANKS' Feb 99 Walnut trees
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I think I remember that post. Wow. It would be nice to hear from
Frank. Didn't he pop in a year or so ago?

Rob - Va

>> Date:     Tue, 23 Feb 1999 13:29:34 -0500
>> Reply-To: homestead AT listserv.oit.unc.edu
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>> From: Tvoivozhd <tvoivozd AT roanoke.infi.net>
>> To: homestead AT listserv.oit.unc.edu
>> Subject: Walnut trees
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>> FranksFarm AT aol.com wrote:
>>
>>  > Hey Bev
>>  >
>>  > <,I got over 100 chestnut oaks, over 100 white oaks, about 10 Loblolly
>>  >
>>  > pines, about 10 persimmons, and about 50 redbuds!  Looks like I will be
>>  >
>>  > busy for quite a while planting trees!!!
>>
>
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 17:49:15 -0700 (PDT)
From: bob ford <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>
Subject: [Homestead] Guns in China
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The Chinese banned guns in China 40 years ago for fear of political dissent, 
using children breaking a window in a gov't building as excuse.  This is from 
tomorrow's paper.  On the left  there is a place to click for a video .  It 
is 
an interesting story .......................
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"OCTOBER 14, 2008 

Staring Down the Barrel: the Rise of Guns in China 

In a Nation that Bans Guns and Celebrates Them, Armed Criminals and Hunters 
Pose 
New Problems for Authorities

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122394012224530655.html#video%3D


      


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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 21:21:44 -0400
From: "Lisa K.V. Perry" <lisakvperry AT gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Homestead] FRANKS' Feb 99 Walnut trees
To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
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On 10/13/08, Robert Walton <waltonrp AT gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I think I remember that post. Wow. It would be nice to hear from
> Frank. Didn't he pop in a year or so ago?


I remember that post as well. I thought he was nuts to plant so many trees,
now I'm surrounded by a forest on 36 acres and completely understand. Darn
AEP cut down our lone persimmon in the go-around before last when they were
clearing trees by power lines (it wasn't very close, but they leveled it
anyway). I was not home and was furious when I came home from work to find
it gone. The previous owner planted that tree and we were learning what to
do and how to eat persimmons.

My goodness but almost 10 years went by fast. Let's try to make the next 10
slow down a bit. Maybe if we collectively try ... ?

lkvp

>>>> FranksFarm AT aol.com wrote:
> >> > Hey Bev
> >>  >I got over 100 chestnut oaks, over 100 white oaks, about 10 Loblolly
> >>  >pines, about 10 persimmons, and about 50 redbuds!
>


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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 18:23:03 -0700 (PDT)
From: bob ford <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>
Subject: [Homestead] DIY Solar Powered Jack-o-Lantern
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" In preparation for Halloween,  I was looking for a project that I can do 
which 
combines ?unpluggedliving? and Halloween.  I then thought of doing a solar 
powered jack-o-lantern.    I think that would be a simple yet cool project.   
  
Definitely, somebody has done this already so I?ld better check trusty old 
google  for a solar powered jack-o-lantern.

I found 2  DIY solar powered jack-o-lantern projects in instructables.

http://www.instructables.com/id/Solar-Powered-jack-o-lantern/
http://www.instructables.com/id/The-Solar-Powered-Jack-o-Lantern!-yay

The idea is to use one of those solar garden lights and dismantle it to use 
the 
solar cell, battery, and light bulb (usually LEDs).  The typical light on a 
solar garden light is ?white? so it would probably look better if you put in 
a 
..........................."



http://www.unpluggedliving.com/diy-solar-powered-jack-o-lantern/


      


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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 18:31:37 -0700 (PDT)
From: bob ford <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>
Subject: [Homestead] Strawbale & Mud in Texas
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Sage, I don't know if this is one of the people you know, Texas is big, so 
probably a lot of strawbale builders.  I found this on Treehugger.com 
...bobford
--------------------------------------------------------------------
This strawbale builder is Nick Moser

"In addition to holding out through Hurricane Ike, straw bale homes have 
received good reviews with respect to withstanding fires. The natural 
materials 
result in excellent heating and cooling properties. And the do-it-yourself 
aspect means you will have a home tailored to your concept of cool house 
design." 


http://www.treehugger.com/files/2008/10/how-to-straw-bale-house.php


      


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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 22:07:52 -0400
From: EarthNSky <erthnsky AT bellsouth.net>
Subject: [Homestead] more trees
To: Homestead List <homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org>
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Does anyone have Tvo's Paulownia post?
-- 
"The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: 'I'm from 
the government and I'm here to help.'"  Ronald Reagan


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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 19:19:17 -0700 (PDT)
From: bob ford <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Homestead] more trees
To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
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Click here, Bev ..........bobford
 
https://lists.ibiblio.org/sympa/arc/homestead/2006-October/008775.html


--- On Mon, 10/13/08, EarthNSky <erthnsky AT bellsouth.net> wrote:

> From: EarthNSky <erthnsky AT bellsouth.net>
> Subject: [Homestead] more trees
> To: "Homestead List" <homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> Date: Monday, October 13, 2008, 8:07 PM
> Does anyone have Tvo's Paulownia post?
> -- 
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> language are: 'I'm from 
> the government and I'm here to help.'"  Ronald
> Reagan
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 22:19:09 -0400
From: EarthNSky <erthnsky AT bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: [Homestead] FRANKS' Feb 99 Walnut trees
To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
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I remember being envious...that was only a few months after we bought 
this place.
I have a recipe for persimmon hickory nut bread somewhere.  It is 
probably online, too, if anyone wants to search it.  Like all the other 
fruits this year, the persimmons were weighted down,too.  My driveway is 
covered with them and hickory nuts...makes me hungry just to walk the 
driveway.  I found a 'new' persimmon this week, too, so that is 5 
mature, fruiting persimmons within 150 feet of the house.  Not too bad.
Do you want me to collect some seeds and send them to you?

When I was a kid, we used to play 'fort', but it wasn't really a fort. 
We had some logs we moved around and basically made a footprint of a 
cabin/house. I recall that while playing 'homesteader'(It is what we 
did, but not what we called it-I did not know that word then) we would 
open persimmon seeds to look at the 'silverware' within. There is even 
some folklore-I think the knife means icy winter, the spoon means snowy 
winter, and the fork means mild winter.  I will have to look at one 
tomorrow.

I know Frank is still around...he may get the digest or something, but 
I'd wager he is still here.

Bev

Lisa K.V. Perry wrote:
> On 10/13/08, Robert Walton <waltonrp AT gmail.com> wrote:
>> I think I remember that post. Wow. It would be nice to hear from
>> Frank. Didn't he pop in a year or so ago?
> 
> 
> I remember that post as well. I thought he was nuts to plant so many trees,
> now I'm surrounded by a forest on 36 acres and completely understand. Darn
> AEP cut down our lone persimmon in the go-around before last when they were
> clearing trees by power lines (it wasn't very close, but they leveled it
> anyway). I was not home and was furious when I came home from work to find
> it gone. The previous owner planted that tree and we were learning what to
> do and how to eat persimmons.
> 
> My goodness but almost 10 years went by fast. Let's try to make the next 10
> slow down a bit. Maybe if we collectively try ... ?
> 
> lkvp
> 
>>>>> FranksFarm AT aol.com wrote:
>>>>> Hey Bev
>>>>  >I got over 100 chestnut oaks, over 100 white oaks, about 10 Loblolly
>>>>  >pines, about 10 persimmons, and about 50 redbuds!
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