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["Wendy" <crazygardens AT verizon.net>]

In this particular case, the clerks, dishwashers, maids, cooks, carpenters, 
and groundskeeper are probably all illegal aliens.  They can go home.  The 
auditor has other clients.
Wendy


> I see your point James.  But, using your example, I'd say that if the hotel 
> shuts down, the lazy manager is only one person to lose their job. The 
> auditor, the clerks, the diswashers and maids, the cooks. and the carpenter 
> and groundskeeper lose most.  And the banker, the broker, and the market 
> player will simply find another hotel in which to stay.
>
> I can not find a reason to think the bail-out is good for the country.  I 
> agree with you it won't work.  I'm just afraid that things are going to 
> become unimaginably complicated.
>
> If I remember correctly (and with my memory, I might not), in Leviathon, 
> Hume stated that life was short, hard , and brutish.  I'm afraid we might 
> be about to witness 'brutish' ....bobofrd
>
>
> --- On Sat, 10/4/08, Clansgian AT wmconnect.com <Clansgian AT wmconnect.com> 
> wrote:
>
> > From: Clansgian AT wmconnect.com <Clansgian AT wmconnect.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Homestead] Throwing the Gun
> > To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
> > Date: Saturday, October 4, 2008, 10:13 AM
> > > You don't seem to be saying that they won't be
> > hurt, but instead, that in
> > > the long term it would be beneficial, after  the pain.
> >
> >
> > Not precisely.  As many fool as I know who borrowed money
> > on the fake rise in
> > equity of their houses and kite from one credit card to the
> > other just to
> > eat, I know just as many people who were wooed by the banks
> > to take out a HELOC
> > loan ("You deserve that vacation to the
> > tropics!") and said, "Sorry, but only a
> > fool would do that."
> >
> > You, Bob, paint a picture that the honest, hardworking,
> > frugal person who has
> > been very careful with their affairs will be blind-sided by
> > this debacle and
> > stand there, palms upturned, shrugging their shoulders, and
> > saying they are
> > suffering harm through no fault of their own.
> >
> > I'm telling you that's not so.
> >
> > One interview I read was of a woman with an investment
> > business who was
> > bemoaning the fact that she could not get yet another bank
> > loan to tide her over
> > because two clients had bellied up and could not pay her.
> > The gist was, 'hard
> > working people like this'.  Hard working?  Pshaw.  It
> > reminds me of the line in
> > the song, "That' ain't woiking, that's the
> > way you do it, money for nothing
> > and you chicks for free..."   That isn't someone
> > who is hard working and, boo
> > hoo, after all my hard work look at what's happened!
> >
> > In my misspent youth I was the night audior for a group of
> > local motels.  The
> > vice president of the company's first name was Morris
> > and the people who
> > worked there referred to him as Morris the Cat because he
> > was never seen to do
> > anything of any benefit.  The night auditor had been there
> > since eleven the
> > previous evening, and that usually after a day in college,
> > trying to untangle the
> > books with charges and reciepts scribbled on the backs of
> > folios and vouchers
> > written on chewing gum wrapers and stuck under the drawer.
> > Here would come
> > Morris the Cat sailing in at 5:30 in the morning, gruffly
> > demand to see the
> > ledgers, then go off raising hell with the kitchen staff
> > because they did not have
> > the breakfast of such a busy man as himself ready.  After
> > all, HE got up at
> > 4:00 every day and worked haaaard!  But all the worthless
> > wankle ever did was
> > check the ledgers in the morning and did nothing at all the
> > rest of the day.
> > Yet sold himself as being the epitome of the hardworking
> > businessman.
> >
> > Most of the 'ooooo, these hard working people are going
> > to be harmed' falls
> > into that category. Anyone doing real work, producing real
> > things, and doing so
> > under sound business practices is going to be fine.
> >
> > What I mean by bettering their lot is that people will no
> > longer be able to
> > put up the pretense of 'working' when all they are
> > doing is shuffling piles of
> > paper and bits on a computer from here to there.
> > </HTML>
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