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[Akka Homestead <akkabhomestead AT yahoo.com>]

Tomatoes won't set blooms in temps over 95 degrees.  Apparently, the high 
temperature kills/alters the sperm, um, pollen. :)
Akka

bob ford wrote:
> I have 24 tomato plants, all kind of varieties.  They are all very
> healthy, growing, and have had blossoms for a while.  But, I'm hardly
> getting any tomatoes, just a very few on 2-3 plants.  It is right at
> 100 degrees today; yesterday was hotter
> 
> I use miracle grow and water well; is it just the heat, still, Or,
> could it be a pollination proble?  I have not seen a single bee so
> far this fall.  Today was windy, maybe some pollen blew around
> ...bobford
> 




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Bob, set up a shade cloth to tent the toms and if you can spare the water, 
mist the tent.  This should drop the temps under the tent and in time, you 
should get some tomatoes. Just out of curiosity...
my vines grow taller than I can reach, as tall as I can support them.  How 
tall do desert tomatoes grow?  Also, is your soil that bad that you have to 
use miracle grow?  Do you not have a compost pile? manure teas?

Akka Homestead wrote:
> Tomatoes won't set blooms in temps over 95 degrees.  Apparently, the high 
> temperature kills/alters the sperm, um, pollen. :)
> Akka
> 
> bob ford wrote:
>> I have 24 tomato plants, all kind of varieties.  They are all very
>> healthy, growing, and have had blossoms for a while.  But, I'm hardly
>> getting any tomatoes, just a very few on 2-3 plants.  It is right at
>> 100 degrees today; yesterday was hotter



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bob ford wrote:
> Jerry your post sounds great, but where do people actually work together 
> like you describe.  Some of my relativess are in close-knit rural 
> communities (with other kin, even) and except for big things on occasion, 
> they rarely interact outside of church.
>
>  I agree that Sage is making good step in her community; but will this work 
> in the average community, rural or not? ....bobford
>
The two word answer is "Try it"

Work it out, observe, find the answers from down-to-earth experience and
exigencies. It is not a question of subscribing to some body else's
program. Every place, time and circumstance is different. Yet there are
numerous down-to-earth examples and models around, one being provided in
the links I posted. If one has sufficient interest in the topics, he or
she will search them out and make their own judgments, and act
accordingly. For it to 'work' requires far more than only abstract
thinking and figuring it out in one's head, but observing, doing it,
experiencing it.first hand.

I am not talking about any utopia or any set program of action, good for
any and all time, every place, and everybody.  It could be called
finding better ways of doing things, as situations change, and insight
grows.

This particular working together involves jointly pooling knowledge and
expertise to meet common needs and desires, in Sage's case, food.  Food
here provides the motive to get together.   'Jobs' for many people meet
this need by getting together and earning money to pay for it, and even
getting together to purchase it.  Sage's group is apparently getting
together to discuss and perhaps down the line, produce and distribute
and work out methods of exchange and consumption in different ways than
presently followed by most. Along-side present ways.  I doubt she
considers replacing the supermarkets tomorrow, but who knows how much a
benefit it might offer in days ahead if the supermarkets by any possible
scenario, close.  But even now, the prospect of healthier, fresher food
is an incentive to work this out, along with the getting to know one's
neighbors.  Right, Sage?

Religion/(education/science/culture/philosophy/the arts) are not the
only reason people congregate.  Another is Economics, jointly providing
for our needs and desires. Government ... pluralities of persons getting
together to determine, regulate and enforce human behavior is another
reason persons congregate.  I happen to think that these three orders of
our social life can be, and should be carefully delineated, and kept
quite separate and distinct, each one having very different
requirements, characteristics and functions. When they are not, well,
consider the problems and confusion of today under the Largess of
Government/Big Business/Public Education/Science/ even the Arts.  It
probably would take more words for you to understand what I mean by
these terms. But yes, I think the under lying observations and
principles apply to even two persons interacting, or more within a
family, small group or community, nationally, and even intra-nationally.

The general principles of 1) personal Freedom of thought and spirit,  2)
Equality ... in vote and power on issues brought up to public discussion
and regulation in government, strictly limited only to issues we all
simply by being human share equally and the same, and 3) Fraternity in
economics... free and voluntary association,  apply in any situation,
time or place a plurality of person are involved. Yes, I think they work
well in the average, or not so average community, a family,  rural or
otherwise. There are down-to-earth examples of persons and groups of
persons DOING  it.  We do not have to look beyond the headlines to see
the confusion and result when all this is stirred together in one huge
Pot called State or Government.  I greatly appreciate questions from
anyone wanting to know how I see things.  Thanks.   Jerry B