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[bob ford <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>]

>From what I have read and heard, There are enough more registered democrats 
>than republicans, that the only way McCain can win the electoral vote is if 
>enough democrats are lying about for whom they will vote.

If Obama loses, it is solely because enough democrats vote for McCain.  And, 
if you don't believe that the ugliness of recism isn't just about as 
prevalent in so called progressive democrats as it  in conservatives, then 
you're fooling yourself.

If Obama loses, it will be because of rascist democrats.  It is that simple.  
If he were white he would be 25 points ahead in the polls right 
now......bobford


--- On Sat, 8/30/08, Lynda <lurine AT softcom.net> wrote:

> From: Lynda <lurine AT softcom.net>
> Subject: Re: [Homestead] Dream Fulfilled?
> To: akkabhomestead AT yahoo.com, homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Date: Saturday, August 30, 2008, 2:24 PM
> Ya know, I don't think race has as much to do with
> people not voting for 
> Teflon as folks think.  People simple do NOT like the man. 
> Sure, there are 
> racists out there that won't vote for him because of
> race but those same 
> folks won't vote for a Mormon or a woman or a [fill in
> the blank].
> 
> However, I think it is far sillier to vote for someone
> *because* of race. 
> This country doesn't need to fulfill MLK's dream,
> this country needs to dig 
> itself out of a great big ditch full of problems.
> 
> As far as the Hispanic vote goes, historically, there has
> been a BIG divide 
> between black and brown.  There is still a very ingrained
> distrust and hate 
> going on in the Hispanic community.  The gangs are very
> active there and 
> they have a lot of political pull!
> 
> However, folks who said they wouldn't vote for McNasty
> have now said they 
> will.  Some of those folks, Dobson, etc., have a big
> following.
> 
> And don't forget the PUMAs.
> 
> Lynda
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Akka Homestead"
> <akkabhomestead AT yahoo.com>
> 
> > I disagree. I think that picking Palin, just may be a
> big help to him.
> > All the religious right needs to do is wait for a 72
> year old that's
> > had 3 bouts with cancer to die and they are set. There
> are lots of
> > Carl Rove types that will be glad to direct then
> President Palin in
> > what she needs to do. There are tons of unelectable
> conservatives that
> > would have a hay day in that case.
> 
> 
> I keep hearing about the religious right....I know that
> they support the 
> Republicans, but honestly, I don't think their support
> will push McCant to 
> victory. I believe their power is mostly a media illusion.
> They certainly 
> aren't more powerful than the Hispanic vote.
> Republicans really need to 
> spend more money courting the Hispanics, because their
> conservative culture 
> is a good match.
> If McCain wins, then I will have to reassess that illusion
> belief, but I 
> tell you, I'd be just as likely to say that if Mc wins,
> then we have yet to 
> fulfill MLK's dream. It is sad to say, but I wonder if
> we have really seen 
> the dream fulfilled. When push comes to shove, and the
> choice is narrowed, 
> people often vote differently than what they tell their
> friends and family.
> 
> Akka
> 
> 
> 
> 
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