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  • From: "Don Bowen" <don.bowen AT earthlink.net>
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  • Subject: [Homestead] cats lovers in politics
  • Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 13:36:28 -0700

http://blogs.ft.com/rachmanblog/2008/06/cat-leaders-and-dog-leaders/

"Is there a political moral here? Obviously. Dictators like dogs because they
are obedient, pack animals. Democrats like cats, because they are free
spirits."

Don Bowen KI6DIU
http://www.braingarage.com/Dons/Travels/journal/Journal.html
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On Jun 13, 2008, at 3:57 PM, Lynda wrote:
>>
>> I don't find it incomprehensible. I find it questionable that all
>> parents can do it successfully.
>>
> ***Yet you are perfectly comfortable with the public school system
> which is
> a dismal failure at everything education and only really successful
> in its
> real goal -- sheople and consumerism.

How dare you! Shame on you! You ASSUME! I have said clearly that I am
an advocate of homeschooling and nonschooling. I find the public
school system in great need of improvement.
>
>> How many examples do you need? Walk through any housing project for
>> starters. Then walk through the barrios. Then observe the home lives
>> of children whose parents are working minimum-wage jobs. All children
>> deserve the opportunity to rise above their beginnings.
>>
> ***O.K., so? I'm sure at some point when you lived in the Bay Area,
> you
> must have driven through or by Richmond and Point Richmond. Would
> that be
> one of those examples you'd like me to walk through?

No. I am today personally knowledgeable only with lower-class
neighborhoods in Phoenix. I am also informed by what I read from a
wide selection of urban newspapers. While many parents do what they
can to resist, when they are at work their children are often watching
TV or outside playing and being interacted with by various scum. Gangs
beget gangs. Such areas are well known for high pregnancy rates of
very young girls. These are not conditions where I see home- or non-
schooling working.
>
> Well, surprise, that's where I grew up! The projects, W. 16th Street,
> Richmond, CA. Went to Nystrom Elementary. Biggest elementary
> school in the
> U.S. in the 50s. Four city blocks, each building 3 stories, full
> basements.
> AND, one of the guinea pigs schools of the polio vaccine!
>
> Guards, chainlink fencing. About 80% black. Me the lone "red"
> child who
> was routinely pounded into the ground and called a spic, a wetback
> and told
> to go back where I came from cause they hadn't a clue what an American
> Indian looked like. Black hair and a deep tan made me a "greaser."
>
> Three of my aunts and uncles were rounded up by the government and
> hauled
> off to one of the boarding schools where my uncle was killed by
> those good
> and kind Shakers. My grandfather didn't have a high school
> diploma. It
> wasn't considered a good use of taxpayers money to allow a heathen
> in a
> school. So he worked the woods and then got himself a job on a tramp
> steamer and worked his way up to working for the local millionaire
> (Carson).
>
> Grampa Charlie walked out of the hills in Tennessee. Road the rails
> to
> California. Taught himself to read. Worked his tail off in the
> woods and
> bought a boat and made a pretty good life for himself.
>
> My dad didn't graudate from high school. He went to Oregon with a
> phony
> birth certificate to join the Navy and fight in the war.
>
> My mother smoked like a furnace and died from complications of
> COPD. She
> was also an alcoholic. That was her escape from what was done to
> the kids
> and relatives by the government.
>
> Did we stay in the ghetto? NO! Did we have opportunities handed to
> us on a
> platter? NO! We all made our opportunities.
>
> My dad worked his hiney off to get the education to become a regional
> supervisor with P.G. & E. Being a wise man, he worked there until
> he had a
> good retirement (well it was until that idiot Wilson screwed him out
> of it),
> then went on to be the go-to federal electrical trouble-shooter for
> contractors on the West Coast. He also put in his 20 as a reserve
> in the
> Navy. So, he's a triple dipper who owns quite a bit of property.
>
> My mother, with her high school education, became the manager of a
> string of
> tire shops from Oakland to San Jose and points east. She became good
> friends with the owners of the A's, the Raiders and quite a few
> other makers
> and shakers in the Bay Area.
>
> I own property, all my vehicles are paid for, I've traveled almost
> every
> state, Canada, Mexico, the Bahamas and GB and I've hobnobbed with
> royality,
> millionaires, movie stars and presidents.
>
> Sorry, Gene, I'm one of *those* people you use as an example of why
> all
> these programs are needed. Just ain't so! It is called free-will!
> Making
> choices and personal responsibility. It is called not buying into
> the nanny
> state. It is called not believing the garbage out there that tells
> people
> they can't.

Lynda, I am proud to know you. You are a great story. I applaud you
and all that your family and you have accomplished.

Your parents' character is far above average. What character-istics of
your parents would you say most contributed to your success? And how
do you feel they got them?
>
> We need a whole bunch less government and a whole bunch more personal
> responsibility!

We are on the same page. Personal responsibility is easy to say; it is
hard to instill in those who have no role model or other example to
inspire them. The well-known multi-generational welfare recipients
illustrates the paradox.





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