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  • From: VAN DELL JORDAN <vdjor AT yahoo.com>
  • To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [Homestead] How to judge history, was Obama and religion
  • Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 16:42:06 -0700 (PDT)

I grew up in north central missour... My ancesters
were victoms of civil war attrocities... It may be a
little simplisted to say that the physical results of
the civil war were only in the south..
Van Dell



--- Marie McHarry <mmcharry AT gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 8:43 PM,
> <Clansgian AT wmconnect.com> wrote:
> >
> > > And there we go again. Because you do not
> understand it, and because we
> > > disagree with the revisionist presentation of
> the story, we Southerners are
> > > carrying negative baggage.
>
> One of the reasons that the War Between the States
> still leads to
> exchanges like this thread is that it was fought on
> Southern soil.
> Hundreds of thousands of Northerners died but their
> farmsteads weren't
> burned out, their women and children killed or left
> to die without
> food or shelter, and their cities burned to the
> ground. People now
> living in the South still have living family
> memories of that horror.
>
> People in the North may know -- but probably have no
> clue -- that an
> ancestor fought in the war. If he died, he's even
> more likely to be
> forgotten. For them, the war is a long time ago and
> they wonder why
> anyone would still care.
>
> That's one of the lessons of war -- and a good
> reason that the
> ancients often razed the cities of their enemies,
> killed all the men,
> and either killed the women and children or sold
> them into slavery in
> distant foreign lands (no place close where they
> could get together
> and live to fight another day). And another thing,
> industrial powers
> fight wars of attrition (kill everyone and destroy
> everything until
> the other side totally gives up); the only effective
> defense from the
> less industrial country that's being invaded is, ta
> da,
> counterinsurgency. We should probably bear this in
> mind when we start
> wars that will inevitably have a lot of pulverized
> real estate and
> hundreds of thousands of what is now called
> collateral damage.
>
> Marie
>
> PS: Even here in Illinois, only a few miles from
> where Lincoln spent
> most of his adult life, I learned in school that the
> War Between the
> States (that's what we called it in school) was an
> economic war, not
> one that was fought to end slavery. Amazing the
> things one can learn
> in school.
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