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["Lynda" <lurine AT softcom.net>]

Wellllll, or y'all could become more California-ized <g>  Average per capita 
use here is 7,032.  Sorry, couldn't resist.

Plus, all this talk of Brazil and ethenol *is* pure nonsense since ethenol 
is not an efficient use of anything anywhere except somewhere like Brazil. 
Brazil has made sugar cane a two use product.  They aren't jacking up the 
price of a human and livestock food source and paying ridiculous amounts in 
subsidies while using more carbon fuel to make it than the energy use they 
get out of it.  Makes good press and that's about all.

Lynda
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <Clansgian AT wmconnect.com>
> France is NOT 100% nuclear.  It only gets 77% of its own elecricity from
> nuclear, the rest is from hydro, coal, oil, and natural gas.  France's per 
> capita
> use of electricity is just about half of that of the US (about 7,000 kWH 
> per
> person to our 14,000 kWH per person).   Also France got into the the 
> nuclear
> energy game because of its abundance of uranium production of which peaked 
> in
> 1990 until today it is just about nil.  All that electricity is from 
> IMPORTED
> uranium, they no longer have any significant domestic sources.  In 1988 
> France
> produced 3300 tons of uranium which only met HALF of its domestic needs. 
> Last
> year the domestic production was under 200 tons.  So much for 6000 years 
> of
> uranium!
>
> By the bye, the reference to Brazil .... Brazil meets only 40% of its 
> motor
> fuel needs with ethanol.  The rest is from petroleum.  And even at that, 
> Brazil
> uses only 12% of the motor fuel per capita that is used in the US.
>
> So the no carbon myth of nuclear electicity like France and ethanol motor
> fuel like Brazil is a myth.  To even begin to compare ourselves with those
> countries, we'd have to cut our electricity use in half and our motor fuel 
> used to
> one eighth.
>
> I'd heard the figure of 6000 years of uranium before and dug a bit to find
> the source of it.  It comes from extimating all the uranium there is in 
> the
> earth's crust and imagining that is being used as nuclear fuel.  First 
> only 0.6%
> of the naturally occuring urnaium is fissionable and even at that most of 
> it is
> not recoverable.  A source has to have at least 20ppm in order to not 
> spend
> more energy recovering the uranium than one would get by using it as fuel.
>
> It's similar to this:  here in east Tennessee there are millions upon
> millions of yellow pine trees and they produce an abundance of small cones 
> with tiny
> seeds.  The seeds are delicious and a good food source for oil and 
> proteins.
> Just do the math and you see there is no reason at all for world hunger, 
> just
> come here and get all the pine nuts.  All you'd have to do is crawl out on
> every rattlesnake infested snag and outcrop, climb scraggy trees all day 
> long for
> a small handful of nuts.  Simple.
>
> The supposed abundance of uranium is like that.
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