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  • Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 06:35:01 -0800


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Today's Topics:

1. CRAFTSMAN ROUT-A-SIGNER ( warrensmith )
2. Re: The Future of the Web (DSanner106 AT aol.com)
3. Re: CRAFTSMAN ROUT-A-SIGNER (Don Bowen)
4. Re: CRAFTSMAN ROUT-A-SIGNER (EarthNSky)
5. Re: And another one falls (Lisa K.V. Perry)
6. Re: And another one falls (Gloria Morris)
7. Grocery Co-ops (sanrico AT highdesert.com)
8. Land tax overdue? (sanrico AT highdesert.com)
9. Re: Land tax overdue? (Gene GeRue)
10. Re: And another one falls (tonitime AT juno.com)
11. Shaping our thinking (Gene GeRue)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 03:27:05 +0000
From: " warrensmith " <warrensmith AT palmettobuilders.net>
Subject: [Homestead] CRAFTSMAN ROUT-A-SIGNER
To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
Message-ID: <20070110032705.21725.qmail AT server269.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

So much for color-blindness and proofreading. The templates are orange. Hopefully that was understandable.


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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 22:39:13 EST
From: DSanner106 AT aol.com
Subject: Re: [Homestead] The Future of the Web
To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
Message-ID: <bc1.9bd3db1.32d5b9e1 AT aol.com>
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Hi Bev,
Actually, having been an advisor to the Harper Collins Board of
Directors among others, I was there for discussions about this. I can say that this
may go the other way. The IRS is very happy having all these early electronic
filings and will be able to save a bundle on handling costs as these
increase and want to offer free filings and some other encouragements. Software
companies may start offering a version without the expensive book for a lower
cost and a free download site because it saves them on base cost and shipping.
It will be in their best interest to help keep costs off the internet. Only
time will tell though.

Drew







In a message dated 1/9/2007 7:46:00 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
erthnsky AT bellsouth.net writes:

It's not just the entrepreneurs, it's all the other stuff like the iPod
craze and music downloads that interconnect things. Soon, manufacturers
will no longer ship manuals at all, it'll be extra cost download. You
won't be able to walk in anywhere and pay bills the old fashioned way,
it will *have* to be done electronically. Already, the IRS is moving
that way for tax filings. It's all coming to a merge of technologies
and uses and central to everything is the computer. Everyone assumes
that everyone else has one already, and that everyone connects at the
same speed, has the same software, etc. IMO, the computer is becoming
more of a tool for mass unification to get everyone on the same
wavelength, with the same knowledge, with the same requirements...it's a
cascading domino effect and the first domino has already been pushed
over. For me, it's only a matter of time before I opt out of the game,
I think.






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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2007 20:22:23 -0800
From: Don Bowen <don.bowen AT earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [Homestead] CRAFTSMAN ROUT-A-SIGNER
To: warrensmith <warrensmith AT palmettobuilders.net>,
homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.2.20070109202151.01f5f600 AT earthlink.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed

At 1/9/2007, you wrote:
So much for color-blindness and proofreading. The templates are orange.
Hopefully that was understandable.

I have to go to storage tomorrow to drag the trailer out so will take a
picture of what I have.



Don Bowen Awl Knotted Up KI6DIU
http://www.braingarage.com
My travel journal
http://www.braingarage.com/Dons/Travels/journal/Journal.html

I am omnivagant.

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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2007 23:37:23 -0500
From: EarthNSky <erthnsky AT bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: [Homestead] CRAFTSMAN ROUT-A-SIGNER
To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
Message-ID: <45A46D83.2020907 AT bellsouth.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed



warrensmith wrote:
Bev, from what I gather about this rout-a-signer it's only going to
make slanted letters. Without seeing the templates you have I can't
verify that, but looking at the photos here it's clear the green
templates dictate the lettering style, and the description says
slanted lettering only.

Interesting. I never saw a close up of the templates to see whether
they are like Ron's, but I can tell you that the templates he has are
black, not orange (or green<g>..worry not Warren, I practically think in
colorblind terms since Ron is also red-green colorblind) and that the
template letters and numbers are upright. We have a manual, but no box.
The manual says nothing about slanted or upright letters. I did
notice the picture of the signs on that box did have slanted letters,
however.


I have a friend who does trophies and
engraving of plaques and such, and anyone doing such work with
computerized equioment like my friend has, cut cut you some new
templates in most any lettering style you want. (Or they have on
their machine.)


Never thought about that,,,,good idea!


Oh, here's the link
http://cgi.ebay.com/CRAFTSMAN-ROUT-A-SIGNER-2572-ROUTER-SIGN- MAKER_W0QQitemZ110074468123QQihZ001QQcategoryZ75680QQcmdZViewItem

Where do you see the template colors?

Bev


--
Bevanron of EarthNSky Farm Sleep well tonight, for somewhere in the
ocean's depths, MY son is protecting YOUR freedom.





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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 08:33:50 -0500
From: "Lisa K.V. Perry" <lisakvperry AT gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Homestead] And another one falls
To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
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Thanks, guys. I wasn't familiar with Dave's garden's site and had forgot all
about Pinetree. Used to order from them--loved the catalog featuring Mary
Azarian's woodcut prints, which I salivate over--and got off their list. Out
of sight...out of mind.

Lisa


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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 07:39:56 -0600
From: "Gloria Morris" <gloriamorris59 AT gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Homestead] And another one falls
To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
Message-ID:
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Thanks for the info, Toni. I wasn't aware of the watchdog site. I'll check
it out before I finalize my orders.
Gloria


On 1/9/07, tonitime AT juno.com <tonitime AT juno.com> wrote:

Gloria,
Are you also familiar with the Garden Watchdog site? It's a Dave's
Garden feature on the rating of seed companies and nurseries. You can
see the rating of each company at their site, as well as see folk's
postive and negative feedback.
http://davesgarden.com/gwd/




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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 06:43:31 -0800 (PST)
From: sanrico AT highdesert.com
Subject: [Homestead] Grocery Co-ops
To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
Message-ID: <20070110144332.5841.fh045.wm AT smtp.sc0.cp.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

Morning, all -
Sandy
(sunrise / mid-Mojave)

ANITA, Iowa - The grocery stores that lined Main Street were always key to the
little farm town of Anita, Iowa.

At one time, four groceries met the needs of the large families who lived in the
town and surrounding areas. Maxine Christensen recalls the horses that farmers
once hitched behind her family's general store.

"Grocery stores were a staple of town," said the 85-year-old Christensen.

Times have changed as Anita's population dwindled and larger competitors arrived,
but the final market remained so important that its pending closure spurred
residents to buy shares and create a grocery cooperative...

<http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/grocery_cooperative>

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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 06:47:35 -0800 (PST)
From: sanrico AT highdesert.com
Subject: [Homestead] Land tax overdue?
To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
Message-ID: <20070110144736.5349.fh045.wm AT smtp.sc0.cp.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

Am I reading that last line right???
Sandy

http://money.guardian.co.uk/tax/story/0,,1985019,00.html

"Consider this. The government builds a new school in an area. The school is a
success. This pushes up the house prices in the area leading to a windfall,
untaxed gain for home owners as a direct result of government spending. The
teachers in the school, on their modest salaries, will probably not be able to
buy a house close to the school. There is clearly a problem here."

"Mr Harrison, and others such as David Reed at the Labour Land Campaign and Dave
Wetzel of the Professional Land Reform Group, argue for a tax on all land to
encourage its more efficient use."

"Think of the 13-hectare Battersea Power Station site, which has stood derelict
since 1982. It was sold last month for ?400m by a developer who bought it for
?10m in 1993. A yearly tax on its value would have focused owners' minds on
making better use of it."

"Land has a scarcity value when it is in desirable locations. That value is not
down to individual effort but derives from the community, and often from schools,
hospitals and parks provided by the public purse. Therefore, as the economist
David Ricardo explained, land has a rental value that can be taxed."

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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 07:59:15 -0700
From: Gene GeRue <genegerue AT ruralize.com>
Subject: Re: [Homestead] Land tax overdue?
To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
Message-ID: <5C5A4F10-055B-4814-AF70-2454D7A40C4A AT ruralize.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed

"Land has a scarcity value when it is in desirable locations. That
value is not
down to individual effort but derives from the community, and often
from schools,
hospitals and parks provided by the public purse. Therefore, as the
economist
David Ricardo explained, land has a rental value that can be taxed."

Everything has a value that can be taxed if the taxer has a socialist
mindset.

Taxing potential income is a deterrent to private property ownership
and to capitalism.

Down with land taxes. They deter private property ownership.

Down with income taxes. They discourage ambition and enterprise.









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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 10:58:45 -0800
From: tonitime AT juno.com
Subject: Re: [Homestead] And another one falls
To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
Cc: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
Message-ID: <20070110.105845.3812.6.tonitime AT juno.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Good Morn, Don.
I've enjoyed Sharon's posts from other lists, and appreciate seeing
her blog. Interesting to read her "future blog" scenario of her
personal peak oil thoughts. Thanks for sharing Sharon!
Cousin Toni


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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 09:40:52 -0700
From: Gene GeRue <genegerue AT ruralize.com>
Subject: [Homestead] Shaping our thinking
To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
Message-ID: <6E5CA00C-E7E4-4412-B57B-1350D28C5855 AT ruralize.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; delsp=yes; format=flowed

I post this to again remind us that a great deal of what we read and
tend to believe is "news" that is manufactured and manipulated by
some entity other than the ostensible author. Never forget, let the
reader beware.


?Greenwashing? Oil
A report says the world?s largest corporation funded studies that
cast doubts on the link between fossil fuels and climate change.

Web Exclusive
By Jerry Adler
Newsweek
Updated: 5:10 p.m. MT Jan 4, 2007

Jan. 4, 2007 - For more than three decades, the tobacco industry
carried on a campaign of disinformation intended to mislead Americans
about the health risks of smoking?a strategy that has been dubbed
?manufacturing uncertainty? in the minds of consumers. And ever
since global warming emerged as an environmental threat, there has
been a well-funded public campaign to cast doubt on the scientific
consensus about the danger of global warming and its source in fossil-
fuel combustion. A report this week by the Union of Concerned
Scientists finds a parallel between the efforts to whitewash tobacco
and ?greenwash? oil?and points the finger of responsibility at
the world?s largest corporation, ExxonMobil.
Story continues below ? advertisement

Under its former chairman and CEO, Lee Raymond, who retired in 2005
as one of the best-paid corporate executives in history, ExxonMobil
was well known for its hostility to government regulations on
emissions of carbon dioxide. But, according to the report, the op-eds
and position papers were only the visible tip of Exxon?s effort to
fund a small group of researchers and an overlapping network of think
tanks that could be relied on to spread the message that global
warming was nothing to worry about?or at least, nothing the
government could or should do anything about. Their frequently
repeated call for ?sound science? on global warming echoes the
tobacco industry?s endless demand for more research on whether
cigarettes really, truly, unquestionably cause cancer.

Of course, cigarette companies weren?t concerned just about future
sales, but the billions of dollars in compensation they eventually
had to ? umm ? cough up. ExxonMobil?s motivation, presumably, is
to protect a fantastically lucrative market: its 2005 profits of $36
billion made it the most profitable corporation in history. But that
very wealth puts them in a position both to shape and eventually
dominate the postcarbon energy world, if they choose to do so.
Ironically, as the report points out, the company and its
shareholders will suffer if it gets left behind in the transition to
less polluting forms of energy.

For its part, ExxonMobil?after promulgating, and then withdrawing 20
minutes later, a statement that called the report an ?attempt to
smear our name and confuse the discussion??wants you to know that
it now accepts some responsibility for global warming. Specifically,
and in boldface, it admitted that ?It is clear today that greenhouse
gas emissions are one of the factors that contribute to climate
change, and that the use of fossil fuels is a major source of these
emissions.? That would seem, on the face of it, to contradict the
assertions of some of its favored researchers in the ever-shrinking
coterie of global-warming skeptics. The question, of course, is what
specific policies ExxonMobil is willing to accept to curb those
emissions. With a new Congress taking office, climate change is
likely to be a much more salient issue this year than it has been for
the last six?so ExxonMobil will have the chance to show if it means
what it?s saying now.
? 2006 Newsweek, Inc. |

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16475341/site/newsweek/

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