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["Lynda" <lurine AT softcom.net>]

Part 2, pasture grasses, in answer to your imaged problems:

Calamagrostis nutkaensis, Danthonias, Deschampsias, Hordeum brachyantherum, 
leymus triticoides,
Calamagrostis canadensis, Calamagrostis foliosa,  also maybe Trisetum 
canescens, Trisetum cernuum, Trisetum spicatum, Leymus cinereus.

Pleuropogon refractus, Rhynchospora alba would be interesting rare natives 
to try out.as both are rhizomatous perennial grasses which seems to be your 
interest in red clover.

Find a remote meadow w/ similar conditions [maybe just wet rather than 
irrigated] and collect seed to try out.  Now's not a bad time to do it.  I'd 
get familiar w/ the invasive stuff though, just so that you aren't spreading 
anything you don't want.

Lynda
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill Jones" <billj AT harborside.com>
> .5.  Red Clover
>
> The plain Jane original, at first glance.  Perennial red clover was
> never too popular with farmers, as its woody taproots like baseball bats
> can't be easily tilled in.  It's only good for permanent pasture or hay
> cutting.  For some reason, all the true perennial clover has been
> replaced by 'Kenland' in the stores and catalogs.  It's an annual red
> clover that reseeds itself.  There may be such a thing as an annual red
> clover, but I don't think it's quite the same.  I loved those soild
> taproots.  You can find "persistent" red clovers, like 'Starfire', but
> they don't reseed readily at all.  Last year my experimental planting
> had all its seed sprout right in the seed head.  To find persistent
> clovers with reseeding capability, you almost have to gather seeds from
> the wild.