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["Toni Hawryluk" <tonihawr AT msn.com>]

> I am thinking that dwarf trees would stay of manageable size. 

You are correct. And what's more, if they are
planted in pots, as mine are, there's even less 
pruning, but if I'm going to let them grow a
little larger, I will have to put wheels under
the pots or wheels *on* the pots because
they are getting too heavy for me to lift to
move them.

> When we bought this property the only citrus tree was dying, looked 
> pitiful. I pruned, deep-watered weekly and fed and there are now four 
> lovely lemons - - -

Like any form of life, even plants respond
to thoughtful treatment.

> - - - slowly gaining color and lots of new foliage. In addition to the 
> fruit, Chris and I delight in the lush spring scent of the blossoms of all 
> the citrus trees here. 

Where I am, it's the scent of pines ... even
in the city.

> Imagine that scent wafting in from an attached greenhouse. 

My 'attached' greenhouse for two winters 
was a sheet of painter's plastic hung from
a junk store hoop, gathered at the top to
hold in the heat and draped around and
under the pots. The pots were on a wood
table under the roof of an otherwise 
open deck, but touching the house wall
and out of the prevailing wind. I put an
old single burner electric hot plate on the
deck floor under the table and left it on 
as low as it would go, then draped oilcloth 
around the table to keep the heat going to 
the underside of the table top. With 'warm 
feet', and no additional light, they survived. 
I watered them twice from November when 
I 'put them away, to February when the 
plastic was deteriorating and had been 
patched but with duct tape in several
places but wasn't really protecting them
any more except from being blown around.
A *really* *tropical* fruit wouldn't take
that type of punishment though.

> Might make us giddy, might make us do crazy things.

Well, now, as the Victorian society-lady
said, "I don't care what they do just so
they don't do it in the street and 
frighten the horses"...  now LOL ... !
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----- Original Message ----- From: Don Bowen<mailto:don.bowen AT earthlink.net> 
> Just as stupid and as bad an idea as most if not all GMOs.

"All". 

Until centuries have passed there *is* no proof 
of what they are doing to the 'open-pollinated' life 
on this Earth (lumping people into that category). 
And who is following any "escapes" that have *not*
affected somebody adversely ? The very fact of an
*escape* indicates nobody noticed it until it bit
them on never mind ....

Tests on fruitflies and relatively short-lived animals 
are only as good as the LD50 factor. And that's 
*not* good at all.
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----- Original Message ----- From: Gene GeRue<mailto:genegerue AT ruralize.com> 
> Whoops! "Dwarf citrus trees require periodic repotting (every third year or 
so.) The dwarfing characteristics are the result of keeping the tree root 
bound in the container, so do not used too large of a planter. They have a 
shallow root system, so a wide diameter container is far better than a deep 
one."
>
> http://www.thegardenhelper.com/dwarfcitrus.html<http://www.thegardenhelper.com/dwarfcitrus.html>

I don't know what the difference is, but there
is purportedly a Meyer and a Meyer Improved .. ?
I bought the latter. 

In the Website article, the suggestion <g> was 
made to 'aid pollination'. But following up on my own 
'belief's', I stay out of their bedrooms (LOL) and they
have been "doing what comes naturally" without
any help from me.