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  • From: "Toni Hawryluk" <tonihawr AT msn.com>
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  • Subject: Re: [Homestead] was
  • Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 08:09:27 -0700

Again - your 'foundation' ...

----- Original Message -----
From: Marie McHarry<mailto:mmcharry AT dtnspeed.net>

> Marie, who objects to being classified as an infidel.

That's the whole point of 'us and them' -
it's a default situation, if we ain't 'us',
we is 'them' regardless of whether or not
we bleed when we are cut - and the
beheadings have proven Shakespeare's
words that we is all 'we', not 'us and them',
only 'they' can't seem to get it through
'their' heads .... sigh .... guess 'they'
haven't read Shakespeare ....
>From tonihawr AT msn.com Tue Oct 19 11:59:02 2004
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: MaryLou Reid<mailto:frogpond AT aimcomm.net>
>
>http://www.attra.org/attra-pub/ghveg.html<http://www.attra.org/attra-pub/ghveg.html>
> "Organic Greenhouse Vegetable Production-Horticulture Systems
Guide" has a section on strawbale culture. (The ATTRA website has a huge
list of really useful articles and books to download!)

Thank you for the natural vs synthetic "equivalents"
under Fertility at this site. And the other for using
stock/poultry generated heat for the greenhouse ...
reminds me of many National Geographic articles
about how supposedly 'primitive' cultures have been
able to live 'comfortably' (more or less) in spite of
the 'unkind' climates where they live.

>http://www.lpl.arizona.edu/~bcohen/cucumbers/greenhouse.html#cont<http://www.lpl.arizona.edu/~bcohen/cucumbers/greenhouse.html#conto>
> This article on growing cucumbers in greenhouses has a section on
>strawbale culture. It's much more technical than the home gardener needs,
>and not organic, but I found it interesting and useful, nevertheless.

But I learned a 'new thing' ! (for me) :

(snip)..."Grafted plants are earlier, root disease resistant, and produce a
larger crop than non-grafted plants. They can also withstand lower soil
temperatures. The disadvantages of grafting are the extra labor requirements.
Virus diseases are also easily transmitted if a few plants are infected."

Grafting woody stock is one thing, grafting ??vegetables??
is "something else" !

Thank you for a very enlightening and educational
several hours.

Toni
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In a message dated 10/18/2004 6:33:17 PM Central Standard Time,
tonihawr AT msn.com writes:

a sledgehammer bludgeoning
mosquitoes .... it didn't work in Viet Nam


>From what I have learned of the history of Vietnam, if the "sledgehammer",
as you put it, had actually been allowed to fall, the war in Vietnam would
have concluded differently. I am reading now that because of "politics",
the
"sledgehammer is not being utilized fully in Iraq. That aside, yes, I
believe sometimes fire must be fought with fire.

Ray




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