Kata Markon

["Rikki E. Watts" <rwatts AT interchange.ubc.ca>]

C'mon Joe,

Jeffery is simply asking that you abide by the conventions of scholarship
and take account of all the data.  It seems to me that you rarely take
serious account of counter data and hence the increasing skepticism as to
your claims.  There comes a point when your fellow-listers are entitled to
wonder how serious you are about scholarship when you increasingly respond
to challenges by saying I only have time to spawn theories not to test them
thoroughly.  

Regards Rikk

on 3/18/01 3:38 PM, JFAlward AT aol.com at JFAlward AT aol.com wrote:

> Gibson writes:
> 
> With respect to the genre of GMark, List Members might like to have a look 
> at
> the
> first chapter of  Adela Yarbro Collins'  _Beginning of the Gospel: Probing 
> of
> Mark in Context_  entitled "Is Mark's Gospel a Life of Jesus? The Question 
> of
> Genre_. I would also recommend Christoper Bryan's _A Preface to Mark: Notes 
> on
> the Gospel in Its Literary and Cultural Setting_. Bryan also takes up the
> issue
> of the genre of Mark and picks up and expands upon much of what R. Burridge
> did
> in his exploration of the Gospels compared with ancient BIOI.
> ==========
> Alward:
> 
> It's just not practical at this time to seek these texts and search for the
> arguments you have in mind, and I'm sure you don't expect anyone to suspend
> their arguments until they've done so.   If you believe that there are in 
> the
> books you've mentioned strong arguments against the evidence I've presented
> that Mark's gospel is partly fictional, I would be very happy to have you
> present them.  
> ==========
> Gibson:
> 
> In any case, it seems clear to me that those here  who have been making
> statement
> about what GMark **is** would be well served to first insure or demonstrate
> that
> they can answer the questions of how closely (or not) GMark conforms to the
> characteristics of the Hellenistic "Lives" and whether or not the author of
> Mark
> employs many (any?) of the standard topoi and techniques that authors of
> Hellenistic "lives" employed.
> ===========
> Alward:
> 
> If you will present an argument, I will be happy to try to respond.  I
> believe the author(s) of Mark created fictional or partially fictional
> stories about Jesus that were partly or completely based on scripture.  If
> you believe that this is not true, I suggest we take something concrete to
> discuss.  Perhaps you could look at the the loaves and fishes story, for
> example, and show me where you think my argument fails.  It's at
> 
> http://sol.sci.uop.edu/~jfalward/Loaves_and_Fishes.htm
> 
> 
> Regards,  
> 
> Joe Alward
> 
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