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Re: [Corpus-Paul] Fw: Paul's information about Galatia
- From: Richard Fellows <rfellows AT shaw.ca>
- To: Mitternacht Dieter <dieter.mitternacht AT teol.lu.se>, Corpus-Paul <corpus-paul AT lists.ibiblio.org>
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- Subject: Re: [Corpus-Paul] Fw: Paul's information about Galatia
- Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 00:16:26 -0800
Dieter wrote:
<<It seems improbable to me that Paul would
not have shared a major conviction with the Galatians already on his first visit
there. In deed since in my view the issue is not circumcision as such but the
reason for desiring it (i.e. avoiding persecution), I am quite positive that
Paul thinks he has been very clear on the matter by vividly portraying the
crcuiform life before their eyes (3:1, 4:12ff). Also, as I have mentioned
before, I do not think we need outsiders to understand the problem in
Galatia.>>
I'm not suggesting that Paul failed to preach his full
gospel to the Galatians on his first visit. I am, however, suggesting that they
failed to understand his non-circumcision thing (and who can blame them?). Paul
had visited Galatia only once (in my view) and there is no reason to suppose
that the theme of non-circumcision dominated his preaching. The circumcision
issue does not loom large in most of Paul's letters and may not have loomed
large in Paul's initial preaching to the Galatians. No doubt he felt that he had
done enough to make himself clear on the issue, but I think we can forgive the
Galatian believers for becoming confused. Dieter
wrote:
<<The way I look at it, Paul did
indeed express his independence, because he wanted to make sure to his readers
in Galatia that HE would never vacillate just because he found himself in a
tight spot. His message of weakness and crucifixion with Christ had apparently
been mistaken for spinelessness. Paul makes sure to rebut that
misconception beyond doubt. I believe that Gal 1:10
makes sense once you view ch's 1-2 from this point of
view.>>
Dieter, perhaps I can be more specific. Why,
for example, did Paul write that he did not meet any other apostle, except James
(1:19)? And why did he write that he did not go up to Jerusalem (1:17)? I don't
see how Paul's statements like these would serve the purpose of convincing the
readers that he never vacillated. If they do, then they are too
subtle for me, and probably too subtle for the Galatians, I think. Or have I
misunderstood you, Dieter?
You suggest that the letter was written during the
Ephesian period. Why, then, did the Galatian situation take so long to occur?
Why did the issues that Paul addresses in the letter not arise prior to Paul's
second visit to Galatia. Or if they did, why did Paul not resolve them on
his second visit? The letter seems to be a response to a new situation in
Galatia. If the influencers were home grown, why did they sprout up so late? Why
did their influence come as such a surprise to Paul if he had travelled through
the region at least twice before? I am unable to reconcile your late date for
Galatians with your home grown influencers theory.
Richard.
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[Corpus-Paul] Fw: Paul's information about Galatia,
Mitternacht Dieter, 02/18/2005
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Re: [Corpus-Paul] Fw: Paul's information about Galatia,
Richard Fellows, 02/19/2005
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Re: [Corpus-Paul] Fw: Paul's information about Galatia,
Mitternacht Dieter, 02/19/2005
- Re: [Corpus-Paul] Fw: Paul's information about Galatia, Richard Fellows, 02/20/2005
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Re: [Corpus-Paul] Fw: Paul's information about Galatia,
Mark D. Nanos, 02/20/2005
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Re: [Corpus-Paul] Fw: Paul's information about Galatia,
Mitternacht Dieter, 02/20/2005
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Re: [Corpus-Paul] Fw: Paul's information about Galatia,
Mark D. Nanos, 02/20/2005
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[Corpus-Paul] Who told the Galatians about Peter?,
Richard Fellows, 02/21/2005
- Re: [Corpus-Paul] Who told the Galatians about Peter?, Mark D. Nanos, 02/21/2005
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Re: [Corpus-Paul] Fw: Paul's information about Galatia,
Richard Fellows, 02/22/2005
- Re: [Corpus-Paul] Fw: Paul's information about Galatia, Mark Goodacre, 02/22/2005
- [Corpus-Paul] Titus-Timothy and Galatians, Richard Fellows, 02/23/2005
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[Corpus-Paul] Who told the Galatians about Peter?,
Richard Fellows, 02/21/2005
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Re: [Corpus-Paul] Fw: Paul's information about Galatia,
Mitternacht Dieter, 02/22/2005
- Re: [Corpus-Paul] Fw: Paul's information about Galatia, Mark D. Nanos, 02/23/2005
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Re: [Corpus-Paul] Fw: Paul's information about Galatia,
Mark D. Nanos, 02/20/2005
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Re: [Corpus-Paul] Fw: Paul's information about Galatia,
Mitternacht Dieter, 02/20/2005
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Re: [Corpus-Paul] Fw: Paul's information about Galatia,
Mitternacht Dieter, 02/19/2005
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Re: [Corpus-Paul] Fw: Paul's information about Galatia,
Richard Fellows, 02/19/2005
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