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Re: [Corpus-Paul] Fw: Paul's information about Galatia
- From: Richard Fellows <rfellows AT shaw.ca>
- To: Mitternacht Dieter <dieter.mitternacht AT teol.lu.se>, Corpus-Paul <corpus-paul AT lists.ibiblio.org>
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- Subject: Re: [Corpus-Paul] Fw: Paul's information about Galatia
- Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 00:03:48 -0800
Dieter,
Let's first consider the possibility that Galatians
was written during Paul's initial visit to Macedonia and Achaia. You agree that
it is doubtful that an Galatian envoy would made the long journey to the Aegean
or known where to find Paul. The other possibility is that Paul sent someone to
Galatia to check up on the Galatians and that that someone returned to Paul and
that Paul then sent someone with the letter. I find this equally unlikely.
The churches in Macedonia and Achaia were
small and new and from 1 Thess it seems that Paul's communications were
infrequent even with the Aegean churches. There were enough local churches
needing the attention of Paul and his very small team.
Communication between Paul and Galatia is more
likely during the later stages of his Aegean career, such as during his Ephesian
period. However, as I said before, such a late date makes it difficult to
account for the confusion in Galatia. Would anyone at that time have thought it
plausible that Paul taught circumcision? I doubt it. Paul would have visited
them two or three times by then. Furthermore, the apostles had known Paul's
position on circumcision for many years (See Gal 2). And we are not
justified in dismissing the evidence of Acts 21, which tells that Paul did
have a reputation for opposing circumcision. Also, if Paul had sent an envoy to
Galatia, as you suggest, Dieter, why did that envoy not simply clear up any
confusion that the influencers had sown? Why did he not simply point out that
Paul did not preach circumcision? And if the influencer had been in contact with
the Jerusalem apostles AFTER the Gal 2 visit, as you suggest, why did the
apostles not explain to them that Paul did not preach circumcision? I'm having
difficulty reconciling 5:11 with your reconstruction, Dieter.
Partly for these reasons I prefer to place
Galatians early. I am impressed by Longenecker's analysis. He writes that the
influencers included in their presentation "the charges that Paul, as a matter
of fact, actually did preach and practice circumcision, but that he withheld
this more developed rite only so as to gain his converts' initial favorable
response. Thus, in effect, he was more interested in winning their approval than
God's approval (cf. 1:10), since he really did believe in circumcision...". This
makes good sense. The influencers' false assumptions about Paul's position are
understandable at a time when he had visited Galatia only once and was not well
known in Judea (Gal 1:22) and had not even yet laid out his gospel to the
apostles (Gal 2:2). I imagine that the influencers told the Galatian believers
about the need for circumcision and that they remarked that Paul had not told
them that they needed to be circumcised. To this the influencers replied that
Paul had presumably decided not to burden them with too much too soon and that
he would doubtless urge them to circumcise when he next visited.
I agree with Dieter that the influencers did not
oppose Paul. They just misunderstood him and inadvertently misrepresented him.
They thought that they were completing the task that he had started in
Galatia. I also agree that the readers were surprised at what they read. It
seems to me that Paul uses extreme rhetoric in an attempt so overturn the view
that he had omitted circumcision from his preaching just to attract converts.
When you tell someone something and they reply, "You don't really
believe that: you are saying that just to gain my allegiance", you have to
use extreme language to make them believe that you really do believe it.
You have to take a more extreme position than you would otherwise do, so as to
correct the other person's misconception. This type of rhetoric is evident in
5:2-12, which begins with, "Behold, I Paul say to you". I therefore think that
Paul was more moderate on the circumcision issue than appears at first
sight from Galatians. Acts supports this view.
Dieter wrote:
<<It seems plausible to me that the
crisis in Galatia arose from socio-religious intra- and inter-group
problems IN Galatia, and that support from Jerusalem was sought not because
there was a conscious effort to oppose Paul, but maybe simply because (as you
said yourself) Paul was harder to get in touch with than the Jerusalem
apostles.>>
How do you explain why Paul proclaims his
independence of the Jerusalem apostles?
Richard.
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[Corpus-Paul] Fw: Paul's information about Galatia,
Mitternacht Dieter, 02/18/2005
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Re: [Corpus-Paul] Fw: Paul's information about Galatia,
Richard Fellows, 02/19/2005
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Re: [Corpus-Paul] Fw: Paul's information about Galatia,
Mitternacht Dieter, 02/19/2005
- Re: [Corpus-Paul] Fw: Paul's information about Galatia, Richard Fellows, 02/20/2005
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Re: [Corpus-Paul] Fw: Paul's information about Galatia,
Mark D. Nanos, 02/20/2005
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Re: [Corpus-Paul] Fw: Paul's information about Galatia,
Mitternacht Dieter, 02/20/2005
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Re: [Corpus-Paul] Fw: Paul's information about Galatia,
Mark D. Nanos, 02/20/2005
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[Corpus-Paul] Who told the Galatians about Peter?,
Richard Fellows, 02/21/2005
- Re: [Corpus-Paul] Who told the Galatians about Peter?, Mark D. Nanos, 02/21/2005
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Re: [Corpus-Paul] Fw: Paul's information about Galatia,
Richard Fellows, 02/22/2005
- Re: [Corpus-Paul] Fw: Paul's information about Galatia, Mark Goodacre, 02/22/2005
- [Corpus-Paul] Titus-Timothy and Galatians, Richard Fellows, 02/23/2005
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[Corpus-Paul] Who told the Galatians about Peter?,
Richard Fellows, 02/21/2005
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Re: [Corpus-Paul] Fw: Paul's information about Galatia,
Mark D. Nanos, 02/20/2005
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Re: [Corpus-Paul] Fw: Paul's information about Galatia,
Mitternacht Dieter, 02/20/2005
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Re: [Corpus-Paul] Fw: Paul's information about Galatia,
Mitternacht Dieter, 02/19/2005
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Re: [Corpus-Paul] Fw: Paul's information about Galatia,
Richard Fellows, 02/19/2005
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