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  • From: "Michael Abernathy" <mabernat AT cub.kcnet.org>
  • To: "Corpus-paul" <corpus-paul AT franklin.oit.unc.edu>
  • Subject: Re: Paul a Pharisee?
  • Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 15:51:39 -0700


Sorry to interrupt your discussion but could you explain something to me?
Shabbath 14:3 forbids eating hyssop on the Sabbath because it was used for
healing. Shabbath 14:4 forbids sucking vinegar through the teeth to treat a
toothache. I am not aware of these acts being considered work. How is it
that these wree forbidden unless, healing was forbidden? I am aware of
passage in the Babylonian Talmud that allow for healing if the patient's
life was in danger, but only if the patient's life was in danger. Could you
please clarify further?
Michael Abernathy
mabernat AT cub.kcnet.org
----- Original Message -----
From: "Hyam Maccoby" <h.z.maccoby AT leeds.ac.uk>
To: "Corpus-paul" <corpus-paul AT franklin.oit.unc.edu>
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 9:19 AM
Subject: [corpus-paul] Re: Paul a Pharisee?


> >Loren:
>
> I wrote:
>
> >Both Hillelites and Shammaites agreed that
> > >faith-healing on the Sabbath was permitted.
>
> You ask:
> > Even in non-emergency situations?
>
> Yes, even in non-emergency situations. Healing in itself is not included
> among the kinds of `work' forbidden on the Sabbath (see Mishnah , Shahbath
> 7:2). If, however, the METHOD of healing was a form of `work' (e.g.
> building a fire, or grinding medicines), the act of healing was forbidden
> EXCEPT in an emergency, when all Sabbath prohibitions became null and
void.
> In the case of Jesus, the method of healing (i.e. faith-healing) did not
> involve any act defined as `work', and therefore his kind of healing was
> permitted even in the absence of emergency.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Hyam Maccoby
>
>
> Research Professor
> Centre for Jewish Studies
> University of Leeds
> LS2
> Direct lines: tel. +44 (0)113 268 1972
> fax +44 (0)113 268 0041
> e-mail: h.z.maccoby AT leeds.ac.uk
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Loren Rosson" <rossoiii AT yahoo.com>
> To: "Corpus-paul" <corpus-paul AT franklin.oit.unc.edu>
> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 12:15 PM
> Subject: [corpus-paul] Re: Paul a Pharisee?
>
>
> > Hyam,
> >
> > Thanks for the data regarding Shammaites vs
> > Hillelites. I will look into their differences (and
> > similarities) more closely and for now will concede
> > that a "Shammaite Saul" does not resolve the problems
> > of Acts 5 as much as I thought it did.
> >
> > But by the way...
> >
> > Loren Rosson III
> > Nashua NH
> > rossoiii AT yahoo.com
> >
> >
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