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- From: Yuri Kuchinsky <yuku AT globalserve.net>
- To: Corpus-paul <corpus-paul AT franklin.oit.unc.edu>
- Subject: Re: Authenticity in the Pauline Corpus
- Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 14:28:10 -0400 (EDT)
On Thu, 7 Oct 1999, Jeffrey B. Gibson wrote:
> "Perry L. Stepp" wrote:
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jimi Fosdick
> >
> > >> I have for some time been aware of the general scholarly concensus that
> > >> the so-called "pastoral" epistles (I&II Tim, Titus) are not
> > >> authentically
> > >> Pauline, which is to say not written by HP. I am wondering what the
> > >>degree
> > >> of certainty is regarding the other letters of the Pauline corpus.
> >
> > I don't know if we can really talk about "certainty"--some of us still
> > regard the Pastorals as proceeding from the historical Paul. I might
> > point
> > out that I. Howard Marshall (author of the forthcoming International
> > Critical Commentary on the Pastorals) falls into that camp, as do/did
> > Bruce, Fee, Spicq, Guthrie, E. E. Ellis, and Luke T. Johnson--all
> > respected
> > scholars.
> >
>
> Having been "in on" the Xtalk discussion Jimi refers to, I think what
> he is really asking is either how seriously is the thesis of the old
> "Dutch School" that NONE of the epistles attributed to Paul are
> authentic or how certain can we be that the epistles as they stand
> have not been so seriously redacted/intepolated/rewritten by the time
> of out first manuscript testimony that they are in any way
> representative of what Paul first wrote?
Well, Jeffrey, the Dutch School (which the oft-sited by me Darrel Doughty
seems to be an adherent of) was really too far out on the critical side
re: authenticity, IMHO. And the modern (near) consensus it far too
conservative, also IMHO. So I do think Alfred Loisy has achieved the
synthesis that is closest to the truth.
Once again, I invite those interested in this subject to examine the new
additions to my webpage that include a brief analysis and the
reconstruction of the Epistle to the Romans based on Loisy.
Best wishes,
Yuri.
Yuri Kuchinsky || Toronto
http://www.trends.net/~yuku/bbl/bbl.htm
"It is so much easier to assume than to prove; it is so much less painful
to believe than to doubt; there is such a charm in the repose of
prejudice, when no discordant voice jars upon the harmony of belief; there
is such a thrilling pang when cherished dreams are scattered, and old
creeds abandoned, that it is not surprising that men close their eyes to
the unwelcome light" -- W.E.H. Lecky (A History of Rationalism)
-
Authenticity in the Pauline Corpus,
Jimi Fosdick, 10/07/1999
- <Possible follow-up(s)>
- Re: Authenticity in the Pauline Corpus, Jim West, 10/07/1999
- Re: Authenticity in the Pauline Corpus, Zeba Crook, 10/07/1999
- Re: Authenticity in the Pauline Corpus, Perry L. Stepp, 10/07/1999
- Re: Authenticity in the Pauline Corpus, Jeffrey B. Gibson, 10/07/1999
- Re: Authenticity in the Pauline Corpus, John Dickson, 10/07/1999
- Authenticity in the Pauline Corpus, Graham Hamer, 10/08/1999
- Re: Authenticity in the Pauline Corpus, Yuri Kuchinsky, 10/11/1999
- Re: Authenticity in the Pauline Corpus, Yuri Kuchinsky, 10/11/1999
- Re: Authenticity in the Pauline Corpus, Perry L. Stepp, 10/11/1999
- Re: Authenticity in the Pauline Corpus, David C. Hindley, 01/30/2024
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