RTP-area local music and culture

["James Hepler" <hepstyle AT gmail.com>]

I know it varies depending on the band in question, but a lot of the time,
the holdup comes down from the sound guy/stage manager/club owner who feels
bad that no one is in there.  I stand guilty of just that WRT the polvo and
superchunk benefit shows.  But the hold time was more or less strict.  In my
experience (YMMV), the band just says, "tell us when to play and we'll
play".  The Conor show, we were told that they wanted us on at 8:30, but
that didn't matter as long as we were DONE by 9.  Our set length was up to
us, but no way was the opening band going to be the reason the show went
late.

I would like for the next Secondhand Freespace topic to be "Stop talking and
GET YOUR SHIT OFF STAGE - Tips for maintaining good working relationships
with fellow bands and show-goers part one" followed by part two: "Hey
opening band, there wasn't a worm-hole, your 35 minute set just lasted 75
minutes"

On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 12:45 PM, grady <grady AT ibiblio.org> wrote:

> Yeah, this could be a whole topic for Secondhand Freespace, although my
> message for musicians could be boiled down to one sentence:
>
> "Yes, 95% of the time I *did* intend to miss your band."
>
> People are busy. They need to do things like eat, or tend children/pets,
> or go to bed early in order to go to work the next day. Or, hell, stay
> home long enough to catch that episode of "So You Think You Can Dance"
> or some shit.
>
> So a lot of the time (in my example above, I'm suggesting nearly ALL the
> time), people are well aware that they're liable to miss one or more
> bands by either showing up "late" or having to leave early. They're OK
> with that. As Hepler says, your band is likely to play again someday,
> and that day is probably about 3 weeks from now.
>
> Some people also don't like breathing in smoke, so in the case of bars
> that allow smoking, said peeps quite often feel obliged to plan their
> arrival time to maximize rock while minimizing smoke inhalation.
>
> Add all that together, and you're left with incontrovertible evidence
> that the opening band needs to SUCK IT UP ALREADY and get onstage and
> play at the appointed time.
>
> And if your slackass friends miss you this time, they'll either make an
> extra effort to catch you next time, or . . . . . . but either way, they
> probably at least halfway meant to miss you, so ponder on that for a bit.
>
> Ross
>
> James Hepler wrote:
> > It's pretty common in the live entertainment industry to hold the start
> of a
> > performance 15-20 minutes.  I think what matters more is that shows end
> at a
> > certain time.  At least when it comes to week/work night shows.
> >
> > But also, having sorta "stage managed" a few recent shows, I think that
> > people love to be late, and for some reason, bands want to play in front
> of
> > people.  And when it comes down to it, all those people who show up late
> > seldom seem to mind missing parts or all of opening bands, either because
> > those bands aren't the reason they came or those bands will play again
> soon
> > enough that there's no real loss involved.
> >
> > I think that this will always be an issue.
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 11:42 AM, grady <grady AT ibiblio.org> wrote:
> >
> >> You tell us, you're the one who owns a rockclub.
> >>
> >> Although we all know the answer already, which is that printed start
> >> times should be amended to read:
> >>
> >> "9:30, or once 50 people have come through the door, including the bass
> >> player's girlfriend, whichever's later."
> >>
> >> local506 AT gmail.com wrote:
> >>>> Oh yeah: when they say 5:30, they mean it.
> >>> Why does this continuously have to be explained when it comes to rocks
> >>> shows?  Movie theatres, television stations and just about every other
> >>> business operates on specific times, why are music outlets supposedly
> >>> exempt??
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