RTP-area local music and culture

["rick sawyer" <rickbang AT gmail.com>]

listen.  i got the point in the first place.  you were using my words
as an example, levelling the sort of charge against me that
frere-jones did against merritt.  brilliant.  you don't need to
explain to me the nature of irony.  but, the point i was making, was
that i wasn't defending that logic in the first place.  so using me as
an example was sort of uneccessarily shitty.  in the second place, my
point was that frere-jones's statements couldn't be boiled down to
that sort of logic without losing something essential.  i may be full
of shit, but you, as an, er, intelligent interlocutor, owe me the
courtesy of an argument before condescending to me.

at any rate, i think we are all in agreement.  stephin merritt is not
a racist.  people who don't like hip-hop are not racists.  todd morman
is a sarcastic jerk.

don't we have a war to protest or at least something more interesting
for our friends at the NSA to read?

rick

On 5/14/06, Todd Morman <tmorman AT nc.rr.com> wrote:
> Yeah, I was using Sasha's logic on Rick S.'s statement, which I would have
> thought most folks here would have the, er, brain power to notice. Never
> thought Rick S. would think I was seriously aiming that kind of thing his
> way. Kind of surprised he took it that way, but oh well.
>
> todd chill rick the point was that it's moronic to make those kinds of
> statements morman
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "James Hepler" <jameshepler AT yahoo.com>
> To: "RTP-area local music and culture" <ch-scene AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2006 5:53 PM
> Subject: Re: "Is Stephin Merritt a racist because he doesn't like hip-hop?"
>
>
> > This is how I read it.
> >
> > --- Chris Rossi <nospam AT spacelabstudio.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Actually, Rick, I think if you go back and reread
> > > what Todd said, you'd
> > > realize that he was actually making fun of the
> > > writers in question, not
> > > actually saying you were a homophobic prick.  You're
> > > only a homophobic
> > > prick if you follow the logic of frere-jones, et al,
> > > which is what seems
> > > to be under attack.  It was typically sarcastic, but
> > > not actually a
> > > swipe at you.  Unless I'm reading it wrong.
> > >
> > > rossi
> > >
> > >
> > > rick sawyer wrote:
> > > > bo's right.  i hereby retract my statement about
> > > todd morman's brain
> > > > power.  in an ideal world, one where my therapist
> > > holds sway, my
> > > > response would have been more like this:
> > > >
> > > > On 5/13/06, Todd Morman <tmorman AT nc.rr.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> > i despise stephin merritt and his music,
> > > >> > and maybe there's a political dimension to my
> > > >> > feeling
> > > >>
> > > >>Yeah, it means you're a homophobic prick.
> > > >>
> > > >>That *is* how this kind of smear works, right?
> > > From the Slate article:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > todd --
> > > >
> > > > thank you for your contribution to our discussion.
> > >  your inflammatory
> > > > words have gone a long way toward elucidating the
> > > nature of a "smear,"
> > > > which, unfortunately, i was not defending.  i'd
> > > venture to say that
> > > > your insult is a bit out-of-line.  this, and
> > > other, similar
> > > > self-important acts of condescension (previously
> > > referred to as "your
> > > > schtick") have grown tiresome in the six years i
> > > have been reading
> > > > this mailing list.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>todd Sasha Frere-Jones has been a shit of a writer
> > > for a long time morman
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > also, may i suggest that you lay off the haterade?
> > > >
> > > > sincerely,
> > > >
> > > > rick sawyer
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