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  • From: grady <grady AT ibiblio.org>
  • To: RTP-area local music and culture <ch-scene AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: Nike to Minor Threat: up yrs
  • Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 12:42:36 -0400

I felt like throwing up a little, too, which sort of surprised me. Looking at those 100s of album cover hacks fixed me right up, though. There's no co-optation like voluntary co-optation, after all, and irony fixes everything. Right? I'm just waiting for it to fix politics.

xo

Ross

Bo Williams wrote:
Wait wait, aren't we all supposed to be inured to advertising in this
generation? Damn it, who changed the rules and didn't tell me?

Bo

p.s. The day I have significant emotional responses to a Nike ad is
going to be a sad day all around.

On 6/28/05, Fikri Yucel <fikri_y AT yahoo.com> wrote:

Fucking Nike can take its apology and shove it.

Culture jamming and two-way streets and what is or is
not permissible legally or morally--fuck all of that.
Everything is permissible. Fine. I get it.

But that ad made me feel a little more dead inside. I
felt like throwing up when I saw it. So, up yrs too
Nike. Apology not accepted.


--- Chris Rossi <nospam AT spacelabstudio.com> wrote:


A coworker from many years ago taught me it's
usually easier to
apologize than to ask permission. Maybe that guy
works at Nike now.
They've certainly already gotten their money's
worth.

chris


5er (martin) wrote:


NIKE apologizes:

http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/news/05-06/28.shtml

Really, it was all a big misunderstanding.
They were paying a homage to Minor threat and

Discord.

Can you not forgive them?

-5er



--- grady <grady AT ibiblio.org> wrote:




The New Left:




http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2005/06/27/technology/techspecial3/27grokster.jpg


Chris Calloway wrote:



--- grady <grady AT ibiblio.org> wrote:




http://ilx.p3r.net/thread.php?msgid=5942033#unread


wow. despite the crappy photoshopping, some of



those



were pretty funny. brought back many forgotten



album



covers, from the days when there were, like,

album

covers. i really liked the throbbing teletubbies.

i somewhat agree with todd. to me the thing about
major threat is it will get some folks who would
ordinarily be anti-IP to get all worked up about



minor



threat's IP. And it will put a heavily branded
corporation in the position of being anti-IP.



strange.



anyway, yeah, the thing about culture jamming is



that



it works two ways and the "reverse" direction is
usually gonna have more horsepower and effect. i



can't



think of anything about the right wing's pr these



days



that doesn't draw heavily from avant garde

leftist

aesthetics of the early 20th century. and i think



that



was one lesson many latter 20th century



post-leftists



were trying to impart. culture jamming for the



left



ends up being just a list of entertainingly



detourned



album covers. throbbing teletubbies, chortle,



hyuck!



not that minor threat had anything to do with the
left. or sometimes they did, if you remember



"meese is



a pig." it's just all mixed up.

talk about the days of album covers, glenn boothe



was



on the air today.

3

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