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- From: James Hepler <jameshepler AT yahoo.com>
- To: RTP-area local music and culture <ch-scene AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: today's active lifestyles
- Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:38:33 -0800 (PST)
I'm not really paying a whole lot of attention to this
thread, but the words Polvo, rhythm, and boring IMO
should never be used in the same sentence.
This coming from a drummer whose band has written
maybe three non 4/4 songs in it's entire catalog. And
they were all 6/8. Grain of salt.
--- Woody <woody AT deadceo.com> wrote:
> I forgot about Deerhoof...
>
> but, I didn't necessarily want to qualify one thing
> as good or another
> as bad since at this point it's all a flat
> landscape. I agree that
> concepts of "newness" are problematic but I think it
> is fair to talk
> about people dealing with formalist aspects of the
> construction of the
> rock song versus recontextualization of rock's past
> moments. For
> visual folks, let's go with Jackson Pollock versus
> Ed Ruscha, maybe.
>
> While Polvo is fairly boring as far as rhythm, they
> were definitely
> interested in how melodic/harmonic content is
> constructed in ways that
> I feel weren't about referencing no wave and Sonic
> Youth. I'm just
> saying conceptually there is a large difference
> between !!! and the
> Flying Luttenbachers (that even sounds silly to me).
> I mean !!! is
> meant to be heard as 1981 NYC in 2004 while I'd
> argue something dealing
> more with form like US Maple is not supposed to be
> 1971 Beefheart now.
>
> My argument isn't really about newness but about
> representation.
> Tortoise's Millions Now Living or TNT records might
> not be conceptually
> that far off from DJ Shadow's Endtroducing except
> they happened to play
> their samples of Morricone, Neu, Mahavishnu
> Orchestra, Reich, etc...
> While I hear stuff like Dog Faced Hermans in
> Cantwell, Gomez, and
> Jordan, they're not about that finger pointing to
> Dog Faced Hermans
> Is this making sense? Am I off base here? rock on.
>
>
> -Woody
>
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-
today's active lifestyles,
Woody, 01/11/2005
- Re: today's active lifestyles, grady, 01/11/2005
- Re: today's active lifestyles, bendy, 01/11/2005
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Re: today's active lifestyles,
Chris Rossi, 01/11/2005
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Re: today's active lifestyles,
grady, 01/11/2005
- Re: today's active lifestyles, Fikri Yucel, 01/11/2005
- Re: today's active lifestyles, Chris Rossi, 01/11/2005
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Re: today's active lifestyles,
grady, 01/11/2005
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Re: today's active lifestyles,
Woody, 01/12/2005
- Re: today's active lifestyles, James Hepler, 01/12/2005
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Re: today's active lifestyles celebrate the new dark age,
Chris Calloway, 01/12/2005
- Re: today's active lifestyles celebrate the new dark age, igou, 01/13/2005
- Re: today's active lifestyles celebrate the new dark age, 5er (martin), 01/13/2005
- Re: today's active lifestyles celebrate the new dark age, Never call me Phil, 01/13/2005
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