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  • From: philipayers AT yahoo.com (My friend Phil said,)
  • To: ch-scene AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: more clear channel insanity
  • Date: 3 Jun 2004 13:55:04 -0700

nice little bit of history Bis. Now, can you tell me about improv?


thebackyardbbq AT yahoo.com (Bis später) wrote in message
news:<20040603090046.98239.qmail AT web40305.mail.yahoo.com>...
> I was a teenage Kinkoid.
>
> I learned the foundation of what I know about
> copyright and patent law because of my
> Kinko's/Copytron connection. The little I know about
> patents comes from what I learned from Xerox, formerly
> Haloid, and has to do with their association with
> Chester Carlson.
>
> Carlson secured the original patent for the
> xerographic process in 1942, and because he had been a
> patent analyzer himself, he was well-versed on all the
> ins and outs of patents. As a result, he managed to
> keep the necessary information for the most effective
> design sewed up well past the expiration of the
> original patent. Quoting a paragraph from this old
> article:
> http://www.spie.org/web/oer/november/nov97/cover.html
>
> "Didn't the patent on xerography expire after 17
> years?
>
> "There were a lot of upgrades that came along that
> kept the patent pretty much in a fresh state. There
> were new additions and capabilities and features that
> came along in the xerographic system. . .you certainly
> could build a 1959 copier, but who'd want to?"
>
>
> Rumor has it there was especial delight in depriving
> IBM and Kodak of the technology since they had so
> quickly and heartily dismissed Chester Carlson when he
> approached them with his idea, back when he was a poor
> nobody.
>
> When Chester was developing xerography, the thing that
> made it a tough sell at the onset, but the absolute
> cash cow once it was realized, was that no one else
> was working on the concept while he was at it. I
> don't think Clear Channel has that aspect going for
> them, so I doubt they'll be able to seal off the
> technology from others--at least not in the way Xerox
> held the patents for copying in a vice-grip for 'round
> about 40 years.
>
>
>
> E.
>
> http://www.invent.org/
> is a fun site that, among other things, provides
> information regarding how to go about getting a
> patent.
>
>
>
>
> > For a patent to be granted, the patent office has to
> > assess whether or not the idea is "useful, novel,
> > and not obvious" at the time of the invention. The
> > patent now held by Clear Channel was issued in
> > 2003. If someone could demonstrate that the
> > technology described in the patent was already used,
> > offered for
> > sale, or described publicly before the patent was
> > issued, then the patent could be lost. I suppose
> > you could also challenge them on the "non-obvious"
> > criterion, but any of those challenges would take
> > big bucks in legal fees.
> >
> > Anyhow. Here's an informative link if yr
> > interested:
> >
> > http://www.piercelaw.edu/tfield/ipbasics.htm
> >
> > -Fikri
>
>
>
>
>
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