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  • From: P-M <cc AT phizz.demon.co.uk>
  • To: cc-community AT lists.ibiblio.org, cc-licenses AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [cc-licenses] [cc-community] Commercial Rights Reserved
  • Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 07:57:31 +0000

On 11/12/2012 14:51, drew Roberts wrote:
On Monday 10 December 2012 14:34:55 Heather Morrison wrote:
hi Kat,

Thank you very much for asking about this. I am strongly opposed to
changing "noncommercial" to "commercial rights reserved". The noncommercial
element is often used by creators who are not primarily in the commercial
realm, and "commercial rights reserved" is not necessarily what people mean
by "noncommercial".

Well then what is really needed is a CRR for those interested in commercial
exploitation and a new NC license which has some way to bind the creator to
no commercial use as well. Perhaps an NC with a fall back to SA if the
creator / copyright holder makes commercial use of the work.

I am speaking to the ones who really have no intention of making commercial
use of their works, not those who want to cloak themselves in a
non-commercial aura while really wanting commercial benefits from their work.

Having to choose between granting or reserving commercial rights suggests
that the many people who share their work freely but just don't want others
to sell it are not welcome in the Creative Commons.



You see, I and perhaps Heather will agree with me here, using the NC license doesn't mean that we want to curtail every atom of commercial reuse. For example earlier this year I agreed to the use of images to make an information leaflet which will be charged for to cover costs etc, they may make a few pennies, commercial - who cares. A book on wildlife in a local park, profits to clean up the river, again commercial - so what. Someone using images in presentations and talks to local societies and groups for which they get a lecture fee - on balance shrug. All of these activities are of minor commercial interest. OTOH a use where the images are being used to sell kids clothes and toys has however moved into a different category of commercialism.

So the NC license allows us to say NO to commercial use unless you run it past us first.

If your business model consists mainly of leaching CC content then you'll probably find yourself in the same category as the kids cloths and toys seller.






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