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Re: [cc-licenses] Will CC 4.0 Make NC Clause Problems Worse?
- From: David Wiley <david.wiley AT gmail.com>
- To: Development of Creative Commons licenses <cc-licenses AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [cc-licenses] Will CC 4.0 Make NC Clause Problems Worse?
- Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 06:31:51 -0600
Ben,
For an example of someone who thinks educational use is commercial,
see the terms of use here:
http://www.montereyinstitute.org/license/license.html
David
On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 11:20 PM, Ben Finney
<bignose+hates-spam AT benfinney.id.au> wrote:
> Heather Morrison <hgmorris AT sfu.ca> writes:
>
>> I have argued that NC make explicit that educational use is not
>> considered commercial.
>
> When I use CC-BY-SA materials to teach people a programming language
> (for example), that is definitely educational use.
>
> I do so for a fee directly paid for this service; that is definitely
> commercial use.
>
> So I think it's flatly false to say that educational use is not
> considered commercial. So it's disingenuous to expect people to
> interpret a Non-Commercial clause this way.
>
> Which part of my definition do you disagree with?
>
> I don't see how you could agree that I'm making educational use for
> profit, but somehow say that is “not considered commercial” use. And if
> you want it to be “not considered commercial” for the purposes of
> interpreting the CC-NC clause, then I think you're trying to make the
> terms mean the opposite of what they say.
>
> --
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> Ben Finney
>
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[cc-licenses] Will CC 4.0 Make NC Clause Problems Worse?,
David Wiley, 05/02/2012
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Re: [cc-licenses] Will CC 4.0 Make NC Clause Problems Worse?,
Heather Morrison, 05/04/2012
- Re: [cc-licenses] Will CC 4.0 Make NC Clause Problems Worse?, Anthony, 05/05/2012
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Re: [cc-licenses] Will CC 4.0 Make NC Clause Problems Worse?,
Ben Finney, 05/08/2012
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Re: [cc-licenses] Will CC 4.0 Make NC Clause Problems Worse?,
David Wiley, 05/08/2012
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Re: [cc-licenses] Will CC 4.0 Make NC Clause Problems Worse?,
Anthony, 05/08/2012
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Re: [cc-licenses] NC Proposal No. 12: clarifying noncommercial,
Andrew Rens, 05/08/2012
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[cc-licenses] NC Proposal No. 12: clarifying noncommercial,
Heather Morrison, 05/08/2012
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Re: [cc-licenses] Will CC 4.0 Make NC Clause Problems Worse?,
Anthony, 05/08/2012
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Re: [cc-licenses] Will CC 4.0 Make NC Clause Problems Worse?,
David Wiley, 05/08/2012
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Re: [cc-licenses] Will CC 4.0 Make NC Clause Problems Worse?,
Heather Morrison, 05/04/2012
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