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  • From: Rob Myers <rob AT robmyers.org>
  • To: cc-licenses AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [cc-licenses] Collecting societies (and PROs)
  • Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 19:54:50 +0100

On 04/16/2012 01:38 PM, zotz AT 100jamz.com wrote:

On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 20:57:12 +0100, Rob Myers<rob AT robmyers.org> wrote:
On 04/10/2012 02:19 PM, drew Roberts wrote:

There is no reason why BY or BY-SA should be incompatible either.

There is because it clashes with how collecting societies operate at the
moment.

Right, but this is their choice, not some fundamental law of the
universe. There is no reason they could not adapt if they wanted to.

Agreed.

If I belong to a collecting society, and I license my work
BY-SA, then there is a contradiction between the society's right to
collect on the copyrights of my work, and your right to use the work
Free-as-in-Freedom way.

Only because they insist on being exclusive.

Say I put two licenses on my song.


1. CC BY-SA
2. Some license crafted for my CS/PRO that they love.


They can just ignore the BY-SA and enforce license #2. The ones I know
about give blanket licenses for everything they license for a set
percentage of revenue. (For example from a music playing oriented radio
station.) So they just collect on license #2 from their licensees and
give me my cut. People playing only Free Licensed music would not need
to enter into a license with them and so they could not collect under
#2. People playing a mix of Free and non-Free music would need to enter
into a license with them and they could then collect on license #2.

Flaws in this thinking?

This would be parallel distribution of the copyrighted work (which is fine), and it would be interesting if it did work like this. i.e. I send the ARR copy to radio stations and put the BY-SA copy on The Pirate Bay, and the PRO collects royalties on the former. I assume it does, but IANAL.

- Rob.




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