Development of Creative Commons licenses

[drew Roberts <zotz AT 100jamz.com>]

On Thursday 22 March 2007 09:31 am, Javier Candeira wrote:
> drew Roberts wrote:
> > My take is that artists using NC are either not thinking enough steps
> > ahead just yet, or are full of themselves, or are trying to take
> > advantage of the "commons" for their own private reasons without actually
> > wanting to benefit the "commons." (With a few possible wiggle areas.)
> > Why would I make these claims which may seem harsh?
> >
> > Enough steps ahead: how can any artist make a living "commons wise" when
> > all works end up NC?
>
> ¿Exactly how do you expect the novelists currently publishing under a
> by-nc-sa license to make a living if they publish their work under by-sa?

By getting paid to write the next BY-SA novel perhaps? In installments 
perhaps? On a lecture circuit perhaps? Oh, I don't know, think outside the 
box as a current overused phrase goes.

How do you expect artists to make a living in the commons if all the works 
are 
NC?

Now, if you want to argue that novels have no future in the "commons" make, 
the case, But until then, please explain how an artist can make a living in a 
remix culture when the raw materials are NC...
>
> > Why not leave the option for making money open for all including youself
> > down the road should you be in a position to do so at a later date?
> >
> > How do you see NC being a better defense than SA? (Or a stronger SA?)
>
> SA only serves to dilute the scarcity value of copies, making more
> difficult for everyone (including authors) to make money off copies. 

I don't know, perhaps autographed copies would do the trick. Do like 
painters? 
Signed and numbered limited editions?

> Free 
> Sofware goes around it by making money off services, but unfortunately
> there aren't many high-paying jobs for novelists. 

Services is only one possibility. Work in advance is another, use value is 
another, lower cost of raw materials is still another. I am sure there are 
more.

> Especially now that the 
> Web is slowly eroding profits at newspapers.

And one final thought, the novelist can not only sell his own BY-SA novels, 
but the BY-SA novels of others, the BY-SA songs of still others, the BY-SA 
movies of yet others, and so on.

Now, would fans rather buy his own novels from him and the works of others 
from the creators or what?
>
> -- javier

all the best,

drew
-- 
(da idea man)