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- From: Karl Ebener <myonlyb AT vollbio.de>
- To: Discussion on the Creative Commons license drafts <cc-licenses AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [cc-licenses] Changing the CC-license
- Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 13:49:20 +0100
Hi,
okay, explaining this in english will be hard, but I will try. Still, I will explain using the german formula:
Nr. 8:
b. Sollte eine Bestimmung dieses Lizenzvertrages unwirksam sein, so wird die Wirksamkeit der übrigen Lizenzbestimmungen dadurch nicht berührt, und an die Stelle der unwirksamen Bestimmung tritt eine Ersatzregelung, die dem mit der unwirksamen Bestimmung angestrebten Zweck am nächsten kommt.
-> This is a "salvatorian" clause which is not effective considering german law.
I would like to change it to:
Sollte eine Bestimmung dieses Lizenzvertrages unwirksam sein, so wird die Wirksamkeit der übrigen Lizenzbestimmungen dadurch nicht berührt.
c. Nichts soll dahingehend ausgelegt werden, dass auf eine Bestimmung dieses Lizenzvertrages verzichtet oder einer Vertragsverletzung zugestimmt wird, so lange ein solcher Verzicht oder eine solche Zustimmung nicht schriftlich vorliegen und von der verzichtenden oder zustimmenden Vertragspartei unterschrieben sind
-> Demanding written proof for consensus does not serve the purpose. The author can always (!) make changes in oral negotiation. If he does so, he "concludently" dismisses Nr. 8 c.
I would like to change it to:
Nichts soll dahingehend ausgelegt werden, dass auf eine Bestimmung dieses Lizenzvertrages verzichtet oder einer Vertragsverletzung zugestimmt wird.
Would these changes really make it impossible to say: "This work is under a Creative Commons-License (BY-NC-ND)"?
Would Creative Commons enjoin someone to use this license and/or the name?
Unlike to the Digital Peer Publishing License (which is very strict since the license is not open for derivatives, I could not find any wordings about licensing the license itself).
Any further questions/remarks are happily welcome!
Tnx
Karl
Peter Brink schrieb:
Peter Brink skrev:
Karl Ebener skrev:
Hi,
Is there a license for using the CC-license? May I still call it a CC-License if I change Nr. 8 b + c in BY-NC-ND?
Oops - sorry - I failed to notice that you _did_ mention what part of art. 8 you had concerns with...
Would you mind explaining why you think art. 8 b and c are not effective under German law?
/Peter Brink
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Karl Ebener, 03/18/2006
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Peter Brink, 03/18/2006
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- Re: [cc-licenses] Changing the CC-license, Karl Ebener, 03/18/2006
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Peter Brink, 03/18/2006
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Karl Ebener, 03/18/2006
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Peter Brink, 03/18/2006
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Peter Brink, 03/18/2006
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Peter Brink, 03/18/2006
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Adam Fields, 03/18/2006
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Adam Fields, 03/18/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Changing the CC-license, Mia Garlick, 03/18/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Changing the CC-license, Karl Ebener, 03/19/2006
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