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- From: Evan Prodromou <evan AT bad.dynu.ca>
- To: cc-licenses AT lists.ibiblio.org
- Subject: Re: [cc-licenses] Case study: Magnatune
- Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 17:40:30 -0500
On Tue, 2005-22-11 at 22:33 +0100, Antoine wrote:
You are making the mistake of thinking that a CC license applies to a digital file rather than a creative work. That is just not the case.If you are given a CC'ed MP3 file, you have the right to re-create a WAV file from that MP3 file, under the same CC license. (well, provided the CC license is not an -ND license) But that does *not* give you the right to claim an existing WAV file is also CC-licensed, when it actually isn't.
So, by your reasoning, nothing is an original. Is that correct?A copy is not the same of the original; whether it has been "creatively altered" or not is irrelevant. [...] Remember our discussion about the FAL: in the digital world, everything is a copy.
You seem to be falling into the fallacy of conflating two meanings of the word "copy". One meaning is for naming several identical things; the other is for the relationship between an original and a replica.
That's probably the most convincing argument: that the copyright holder has misused the CC licenses and meant that only a particular fixed form is redistributable. I think if they explicitly said, "You may not distribute the WAV file", I think a judge would find that the explicit statement of license is more binding than the implicit one.The author decides, and the user complies.
Barring the explicit prohibition, though, I think things would go the other way.
Just my opinion.
~Evan
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Re: [cc-licenses] Case study: Magnatune
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- Re: [cc-licenses] Case study: Magnatune, drew Roberts, 11/22/2005
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Re: [cc-licenses] Case study: Magnatune,
Evan Prodromou, 11/22/2005
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Re: [cc-licenses] Case study: Magnatune,
Daniel Carrera, 11/22/2005
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Re: [cc-licenses] Case study: Magnatune,
Peter Brink, 11/22/2005
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Re: [cc-licenses] Case study: Magnatune,
Evan Prodromou, 11/22/2005
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Re: [cc-licenses] Case study: Magnatune,
Antoine, 11/22/2005
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Re: [cc-licenses] Case study: Magnatune,
Daniel Carrera, 11/22/2005
- Re: [cc-licenses] Case study: Magnatune, Antoine, 11/22/2005
- Re: [cc-licenses] Case study: Magnatune, Daniel Carrera, 11/22/2005
- Re: [cc-licenses] Case study: Magnatune, Antoine, 11/22/2005
- Re: [cc-licenses] Case study: Magnatune, Evan Prodromou, 11/22/2005
- Re: [cc-licenses] Case study: Magnatune, Antoine, 11/22/2005
- Re: [cc-licenses] Case study: Magnatune, wiki_tomos, 11/22/2005
- Re: [cc-licenses] Case study: Magnatune, drew Roberts, 11/22/2005
- Re: [cc-licenses] Case study: Magnatune, Evan Prodromou, 11/22/2005
- Re: [cc-licenses] Case study: Magnatune, drew Roberts, 11/22/2005
- Re: [cc-licenses] Case study: Magnatune, Daniel Carrera, 11/23/2005
- [cc-licenses] back to basics, Antoine, 11/23/2005
- Re: [cc-licenses] Case study: Magnatune, drew Roberts, 11/23/2005
- Re: [cc-licenses] Case study: Magnatune, Daniel Carrera, 11/23/2005
- Re: [cc-licenses] Case study: Magnatune, drew Roberts, 11/23/2005
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Re: [cc-licenses] Case study: Magnatune,
Daniel Carrera, 11/22/2005
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Re: [cc-licenses] Case study: Magnatune,
Antoine, 11/22/2005
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Re: [cc-licenses] Case study: Magnatune,
Evan Prodromou, 11/22/2005
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Re: [cc-licenses] Case study: Magnatune,
Peter Brink, 11/22/2005
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Re: [cc-licenses] Case study: Magnatune,
Daniel Carrera, 11/22/2005
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