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  • From: Rob Myers <robmyers AT mac.com>
  • To: Discussion on the Creative Commons license drafts <cc-licenses AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: CC 2.0
  • Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2004 22:39:47 +0000

On 8 Feb 2004, at 21:56, Evan Prodromou wrote:

What bothers me is that the argument that was specifically about
creating _additional_ licenses seems to have been reinterpreted into
changing _all_ licenses. There is great value for publishers, users,
creators of derivative works, and, yes, even original authors
themselves in having the warranty section. Removing it for a minority
of creators who don't feel comfortable with asserting and warrantying
their right to publish makes the work of the rest of us less useful
and worthwhile.

Absolutely. And there's another side to this that has escaped the bloggers. Their ISP is a publisher. There's no way that as an ISP I'd accept one of the Magic Shield licenses the bloggers seem to want. I'm not publishing something that the author refuses to represent that they have the rights to!

And likewise there's no way that as a blogger I'd quote or link to a site that used a GPL-style pass-the-buck clause. I don't want to get sued because I quote someone else who's decided that everything on the internet is free so they're going to infringe. FUD aside this is more likely with all risk passed on to me than with the responsibility of checking that Lucasfilms really have CC'd "Star Wars". So no warranty would be a major own goal for the people who want it!

Disclaimers have nothing to do with creating a commons and everything to do with avoiding responsibility. Which isn't possible without such licenses and it's not really Creative Commons job to try to provide them.

I realize my continual harping on this issue is probably pretty
annoying. I apologize for that.

Blah, blah blah OGL clause 5 blah blah blah. :-)

- Rob, who has a weblog at http://www.robmyers.org/weblog ...





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