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  • From: Ignasi Labastida i Juan <ilabastida AT ub.edu>
  • To: Tarmo Toikkanen <tarmo.toikkanen AT aalto.fi>
  • Cc: "cc-europe AT lists.ibiblio.org" <cc-europe AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [CC-Europe] Horizon 20/20 open access / open data requirements
  • Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2013 09:13:40 +0100

Tarmo, unfortunately this is not old news. Elsevier's policy has changed during the last years to the current one that I was linking. A few years ago Elsevier didn't put any embargo to researchers when posting of AAM and now they are asking universities with mandates to sign an agreement that includes a longer embargo periods:
http://www.elsevier.com/__data/assets/pdf_file/0018/121293/External_Embargo_List_2013.pdf

In the agreement they offer the use of CC licenses in preprints and postprints:

(ii) enable immediate public access to the Preprints under a CC-BY license,
(iii) enable public access to the AAMs under a CC-BY-NC-ND license beginning at the expiration of the journal embargo periods noted at www.elsevier.com/embargoperiodlist (under the conditions noted herein) as updated from time to time by Elsevier,

In our university we have not signed such agreement and we keep saying that our researchers post their papers voluntarily although we have an OA policy. Therefore we don't establish any embargo in Elsevier journals.

Best

Ignasi



2013/12/17 Tarmo Toikkanen <tarmo.toikkanen AT aalto.fi>
This is already old news, since Princeton and Harvard started doing this already in 2011. http://theconversation.com/princeton-goes-open-access-to-stop-staff-handing-all-copyright-to-journals-unless-waiver-granted-3596

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Tarmo Toikkanen
Learning Environments research group, http://legroup.aalto.fi
Creative Commons Finland, http://www.creativecommons.fi
Aalto university, http://www.aalto.fi

On Tuesday 17. 12 2013 at 9.11, Ignasi Labastida i Juan wrote:

Well, we will see how large publishers react to those embargo periods. They are much shorter than what they currently allow. For instance:
http://www.elsevier.com/journal-authors/policies/open-access-policies/article-posting-policy#accepted-author-manuscript
Ignasi

El dia 17/12/2013 7:23, "Tarmo Toikkanen" <tarmo.toikkanen AT aalto.fi> va escriure:
Large universities have the option of declaring a policy that states that all publications will be published on the university’s own repository after a short waiting time. Even large publishers seem to respect these policies. If enough large universities implement similar policies, creating publicly browsable university-specific publication collections would become mainstream.

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Tarmo Toikkanen
Learning Environments research group, http://legroup.aalto.fi
Creative Commons Finland, http://www.creativecommons.fi
Aalto university, http://www.aalto.fi

On Tuesday 17. 12 2013 at 0.11, T. Margoni wrote:

This is great news and things are, slowly, moving.

There should also be a German copyright reform effective as of 2014
saying that authors of scientific articles have an unwaivable right to
republish in green oa after 6 months. John, do you have more details on
this?

As far as I know that would be a unique approach in the EU, other
members have obligations to republish (spain, uk, italy) but don't
address copyright issue... This is a problem, as it leaves
authors/researchers in the uncomfortable situation to have OA
obligations towards funders and request to transfer copyright from
publishers...

On 12/16/2013, 10:32 PM, Timothy Vollmer wrote:
Hi all:

Horizon 2020 launched with €15 billion over first two years

There's a new provision that says that EU funded articles should be
green OA and that embargoes will be a 6 month maximum for the life and
physical sciences, and 12 months for the social sciences and
humanities. Here's the link to the model grant

Articles - Pg 61

Each beneficiary must ensure open access (free of charge, online
access for any user) to all peer-reviewed scientific publications
relating to its results. Each beneficiary must, as soon as possible
and at the latest upon publication, deposit a machine-readable
electronic copy of the published version or final peer-reviewed
manuscript accepted for publication in a repository for scientific
publications. Moreover, the beneficiary must aim to deposit at the
same time the research data needed to validate the results presented
in the deposited scientific publications. Each beneficiary must
ensure open access to the deposited publication - via the repository -
at the latest on publication, if an electronic version is available
for free via the publisher, or within six months of
publication (twelve months of publication for publications in the
social sciences and humanities in any other case.)



Data - Pg 62 (this is optional)

Deposit in a research data repository and take measures to make it
possible for third parties to access, mine, exploit, reproduce and
disseminate - free of charge for any user - the following: (i)the
data, including associated metadata needed to validate the results
presented in scientific publications as soon as possible; (ii)other
data, including associated metadata, as specified and within the
deadlines laid down in the "data management plan" (see Annex 1);
(b)provide information - via the repository - about tools and
instruments at the disposal of the beneficiaries and necessary for
validating the results (and where possible, provide the tools and
instruments themselves.









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