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  • From: Timothy Vollmer <tvol AT creativecommons.org>
  • To: Gisle Hannemyr <gisle AT ifi.uio.no>
  • Cc: cc-europe AT lists.ibiblio.org, regional AT creativecommons.org, Catherine Casserly <cathy AT creativecommons.org>
  • Subject: Re: [CC-Europe] EDRI
  • Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 05:11:31 -0700

Hello Gisle and CC Europe:

CC's reasons for taking a position on SOPA/PIPA are set out in Mike's 
original blogpost here: https://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/30375. More specific discussion of the legislation itself and how it negatively affects the the open community can also be found here: https://blog.wikimedia.org/2011/12/13/how-sopa-will-hurt-the-free-web-and-wikipedia/and here: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2011/11/hollywood-new-war-on-software-freedom-and-internet-innovation

We think Mike's post communicates the relevance to CC well. In making policy decisions, we try to keep in mind both the mission of CC of stewarding our licences, as well as our vision: "realizing the full potential of the Internet." It could be argued that world where SOPA/PIPA exists is not a move in the right direction with regard to the vision CC ascribes to.

As we mentioned before, we sincerely appreciate this frank discussion and are glad to see that there is a strong interest in CC's advocacy decisions among the affiliate community. We're looking at ways we can draw on more on affiliates to help with such decisions in future, so that we can better tap the expertise of our community.

timothy

On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 11:25 PM, Gisle Hannemyr <gisle AT ifi.uio.no> wrote:
On 04.04.2012 20:14, Timothy Vollmer wrote:
> CC did take action on SOPA/PIPA and was formally opposed to that proposed
> legislation. The regulation would have been sweeping and would have
> directly affected platforms leveraging CC licensing at their core, such as
> Wikipedia and OER repositories such as Connexions.

I am very surprised to learn that.

I've read carefully through SOPA and PIPA, and I cannot understand
why anyone who has bothered to read the text would think that SOPA
or PIPA would in any way "directly affect platforms leveraging CC
licensing".

Could you please explain how the CC arrived at this conclusion?

Sure, I've seen a lot of people in the social media making the *same*
assertion.  But repeating a lie often enough does *not* make it true
(but it often works out like that).

As an example, I've seen literally hundreds of commentators tweeting
that SOPA would enable law enforcement to take down *an entire domain*
due to something posted *on a single blog* hosted on that domain.
However, I am not aware of anything in the text if the SOPA proposal
*itself* that supports that assertion.

>From my perspective, the SOPA/PIPA incident was a tussle between
Hollywood and Silicon Valley.  Silicon Valley employed the best
spin-doctors, so they won - but that is about all there was to it

I am very disappointed to learn about CC taking a position in this
particular tussle - in effect lending its credibility and name
to the cause of the silicon valley companies that monetizes vast sums
of profit from on-line content without paying a penny to the creators
of that content.
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- gisle hannemyr [ gisle{at}hannemyr.no - http://folk.uio.no/gisle/ ]
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