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[elmarsa dice <elmarsadice AT yahoo.com>]

--- sindi keesan <keesan AT sdf.lonestar.org> wrote:

> On Wed, 31 May 2006, elmarsa dice wrote:
> 
> > Steve and Sindi,
> > Thanks for the reply.  I finally found the 8139too.o file on the
> > knoppix disk and was successful in copying both the rtl8139.c and
> > 8139too.o files to the lib/modules/2.2.16/misc directory.  I then
> did
> > the insmod on with both.  The insmod on 8139too.o returned 29
> lines
> > of unresolved symbols.
> 
> BL3.40 uses kernel 2.2.26 and modules for kernel 2.2.26.
> The older versions of BL used 2.2.16 - BL2.1 and BL3.32.  You
> cannot use 
> modules from the wrong kernel, it won't work.
> I don't know what kernel knoppix uses, but probably not 2.2.26. 

I think you may have given my a clue.  I downloaded BL3 from the
website onto 2 floppies and maybe it had the old kernel.  Knoppix
uses 2.4.?.  I don't have it running now. 
> 
> Use 2.2.26 modules with BL3.40 (unless you have changed to a
> different 
> kernel, in which case use modules for THAT kernel).
> 
> If you put the 2.2.26 modules into /lib/modules/2.2.26/misc then
> you can 
> insmod them as 'insmod rtl8139' or 'insmod rtl8139.o'  (I think you
> can 
> even put rtl8139.o.gz in the right place and use it).  If you put
> the 
> modules in some place else, you will have to insmod rtl8139.o -
> this is 
> handy if you simply want to try out some module from a floppy disk
> or some 
> other place first.

I'll fool around with it.

> 
> > The rtl8139.c file returned the following:  (By the way I had to
> do
> > the insmod from the /lib/modules/2.2.16/misc directory because if
> I
> > did it from the root prompt it came back "file rtl8139.c.o could
> not
> > be found". It obviously looks for a .o file to do its thing.)
> 
> It looks for something of the same name that you gave it, with an
> .o after 
> the name.  So if you insmod rtl8139 it looks for rtl8139.  If you
> tell it 
> to insmod rtl8139.c it looks for rtl8139.c.o.
> 
> The ending .c means it is source code written in the C language, to
> be 
> compiled with a C compiler such as linux gcc or egcs.   The
> compiler 
> creates a new file ending in .o, which is a module.  The module can
> be 
> inserted with insmod, or compiled as part of the kernel.  Steven's
> kernel 
> does not have ethernet included but it has support for ethernet
> modules.
> 
> So you need the module rtl8139.o compiled for kernel 2.2.26, from
> Steven's 
> site.  NOT the source code rtl8139.c, or a module for some other
> kernel 
> (such as the kernel used by knoppix).  DOS is much simpler, linux
> makes 
> you match things more closely.

Thanks for the explanation.  As you gather I am learning the system
and this forum is a great classroom

> 
> > Here is the return:
> > Using rtl8139.c
> > insmod: not an ELF file (maybe BL3 is not configured for high
> speed)
> > insmod: could not load the module: Success
> 
> The 'Success' does not seem to mean much, I get it when things
> fail.
> An ELF file is something that has already been compiled.  You are
> trying 
> to use source code.  Source code is text, compiled source code is 
> 'binary', meaning extended ASCII code (over code number 127).
> If you look at the rtl8139.c and rtl8139.o you will see the
> difference.
> 
> > I don't know what the "Success" means but the browser wouldn't
> open
> > when I clicked on internet.  It just came back "host not found".
> 
> Host not found means that you did not establish a connection with
> the 
> internet, because you did not load the ethernet module
> successfully.
> 
> Try getting the correct module and insmod rtl8139 (after putting it
> into
> /lib/modules/2.2.26/misc in BL3.40).  Then you will need to connect
> to 
> your ADSL router (udhcpc, says Steven) and then use the browser.

I wrote a note to Steven about my last try and will wait for his
reply.  Thanks for the help.  Hopefully one day I can return the
favor.
> 
> > That's where I am now, will let it rest for a while and try
> again.
> > Maybe I need to configure the browser but I haven't figured that
> out
> > yet.
> 
> >
>
http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/baslinux/add-ons/2_2_26/modules/net/rtl8139.o
> 
> >> Or follow the link from the home page for BL3.40, for additional
> >> kernels
> >> and modules, modules, net.
> >>
> >>> and downloaded the linux driver from the dlink site but so far
> >> have
> >>> not been able to copy it to the basiclinux harddrive.  It's
> also
> >> in
> >>> txt format with a .c extention.  I don't know if that will
> work.
> 
> The 'driver' is actually source code from which to compile the
> kernel 
> module.  It needs to be translated to the module first.
> 
> >>
> >> This is the source code and it would need to be compiled before
> >> use.
> 
> Sindi
> 
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