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- From: Chris Watts <dekruidnootjes AT eircom.net>
- To: Jonathan Mohler <jonathan.mohler AT gmail.com>
- Cc: "b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org" <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>, George Athas <George.Athas AT moore.edu.au>
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Ex 6:6 hiphil imperative 'bring'
- Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 12:19:51 +0100
I suppose then a classic example of what you are saying is found in the verb רום where the qal is usually: lift up, lift oneself up, become high, exalt, but the hiphil is: lift up, elevate, exalt, increase ones own power. The nuance is there I suppose but I certainly see little difference between the two except that the hiphil might appear More assertive? more referring to raising yourself louder, noisier, higher? (but then I would have expected the latter to be in a piel? Please forgive my obvious lack of insight, but knowing the grammatical descriptions/theories and categories and then understanding the practical realities of translation are two different skills, the latter I am just beginning to learn.
Chris Watts
Ireland
Finally, if I am off the mark as to the link between the two roots, the point is still valid: Shalach is causative semantically and proves the point I was making that Chris has no reason to balk at a hiphil used imperatively.
Jonathan Mohler
Baptist Bible Graduate School
Springfield, Mo
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Re: [b-hebrew] Ex 6:6 hiphil imperative 'bring'
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Re: [b-hebrew] Ex 6:6 hiphil imperative 'bring',
Jonathan Mohler, 07/10/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] Ex 6:6 hiphil imperative 'bring', Isaac Fried, 07/10/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] Ex 6:6 hiphil imperative 'bring',
Jerry Shepherd, 07/10/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] Ex 6:6 hiphil imperative 'bring', Isaac Fried, 07/10/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] Ex 6:6 hiphil imperative 'bring', Chris Watts, 07/11/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] Ex 6:6 hiphil imperative 'bring', JimStinehart, 07/10/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] Ex 6:6 hiphil imperative 'bring',
Jonathan Mohler, 07/11/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] Ex 6:6 hiphil imperative 'bring',
George Athas, 07/11/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] Ex 6:6 hiphil imperative 'bring',
Jonathan Mohler, 07/11/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] Ex 6:6 hiphil imperative 'bring', George Athas, 07/11/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] Ex 6:6 hiphil imperative 'bring',
Chris Watts, 07/11/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] Ex 6:6 hiphil imperative 'bring',
Jerry Shepherd, 07/11/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] Ex 6:6 hiphil imperative 'bring', Chris Watts, 07/11/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] Ex 6:6 hiphil imperative 'bring',
Petr Tomasek, 07/11/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] Ex 6:6 hiphil imperative 'bring', Jerry Shepherd, 07/11/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] Ex 6:6 hiphil imperative 'bring', Isaac Fried, 07/11/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] Ex 6:6 hiphil imperative 'bring',
Jerry Shepherd, 07/11/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] Ex 6:6 hiphil imperative 'bring',
Jonathan Mohler, 07/11/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] Ex 6:6 hiphil imperative 'bring', Jerry Shepherd, 07/11/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] Ex 6:6 hiphil imperative 'bring',
George Athas, 07/11/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] Ex 6:6 hiphil imperative 'bring',
Jonathan Mohler, 07/13/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] Ex 6:6 hiphil imperative 'bring', K Randolph, 07/13/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] Ex 6:6 hiphil imperative 'bring',
Chavoux Luyt, 07/16/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] Ex 6:6 hiphil imperative 'bring', K Randolph, 07/16/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] Ex 6:6 hiphil imperative 'bring',
Jonathan Mohler, 07/10/2013
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