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- From: Jerry Shepherd <jshepherd53 AT gmail.com>
- To: "b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org" <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Ex 6:6 hiphil imperative 'bring'
- Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 13:59:17 -0600
Hi Chris,
I think you've not correctly caught the difference the qal and hiphil of RWM. In the qal, the verb means to be high or to rise up. But in the hiphil the verb means to make a second object to be high or to raise it up. So for this particular verb, the hiphil works quite well as a causative. Indeed, it might be said that for this particular verb, in the qal stem it is intransitive, but in the hiphil it is transitive. This isn't always the case with all verbs, but with this particular verb it is.
Blessings,
Jerry
On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 5:19 AM, Chris Watts <dekruidnootjes AT eircom.net> wrote:
I suppose then a classic example of what you are saying is found in
the verb רום where the qal is usually: lift up, lift oneself up,
become high, exalt, but the hiphil is: lift up, elevate, exalt,
increase ones own power. The nuance is there I suppose but I
certainly see little difference between the two except that the
hiphil might appear More assertive? more referring to raising
yourself louder, noisier, higher? (but then I would have expected
the latter to be in a piel? Please forgive my obvious lack of
insight, but knowing the grammatical descriptions/theories and
categories and then understanding the practical realities of
translation are two different skills, the latter I am just beginning
to learn.
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Re: [b-hebrew] Ex 6:6 hiphil imperative 'bring'
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- Re: [b-hebrew] Ex 6:6 hiphil imperative 'bring', Isaac Fried, 07/10/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] Ex 6:6 hiphil imperative 'bring',
Jerry Shepherd, 07/10/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] Ex 6:6 hiphil imperative 'bring', Isaac Fried, 07/10/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] Ex 6:6 hiphil imperative 'bring', Chris Watts, 07/11/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] Ex 6:6 hiphil imperative 'bring', JimStinehart, 07/10/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] Ex 6:6 hiphil imperative 'bring',
Jonathan Mohler, 07/11/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] Ex 6:6 hiphil imperative 'bring',
George Athas, 07/11/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] Ex 6:6 hiphil imperative 'bring',
Jonathan Mohler, 07/11/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] Ex 6:6 hiphil imperative 'bring', George Athas, 07/11/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] Ex 6:6 hiphil imperative 'bring',
Chris Watts, 07/11/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] Ex 6:6 hiphil imperative 'bring',
Jerry Shepherd, 07/11/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] Ex 6:6 hiphil imperative 'bring', Chris Watts, 07/11/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] Ex 6:6 hiphil imperative 'bring',
Petr Tomasek, 07/11/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] Ex 6:6 hiphil imperative 'bring', Jerry Shepherd, 07/11/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] Ex 6:6 hiphil imperative 'bring', Isaac Fried, 07/11/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] Ex 6:6 hiphil imperative 'bring',
Jerry Shepherd, 07/11/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] Ex 6:6 hiphil imperative 'bring',
Jonathan Mohler, 07/11/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] Ex 6:6 hiphil imperative 'bring', Jerry Shepherd, 07/11/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] Ex 6:6 hiphil imperative 'bring',
George Athas, 07/11/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] Ex 6:6 hiphil imperative 'bring',
Jonathan Mohler, 07/13/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] Ex 6:6 hiphil imperative 'bring', K Randolph, 07/13/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] Ex 6:6 hiphil imperative 'bring',
Chavoux Luyt, 07/16/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] Ex 6:6 hiphil imperative 'bring', K Randolph, 07/16/2013
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