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Re: [b-hebrew] Hitpael 1st pers plural bow down/worship
- From: Chris Watts <dekruidnootjes AT eircom.net>
- To: Ken Penner <kpenner AT stfx.ca>
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- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Hitpael 1st pers plural bow down/worship
- Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2013 20:52:33 +0100
Dear Ken, thankyou for your kind answer. I am a self studier for many years and am really at a sort of intermediate level without knowledge of coding or the ancient texts, so please forgive me for any ignorance I may show. I do not understand how this verb has the root that you wrote here: """is most likely a Hištafʿel of √ חוי.""" or this quote: "Verb חיה: Hištafʿel form הִשְׁתַּחֲוָה I looked up these roots but can not find them in the references that I have except of course that I know that חיה means 'to live' which of course I am sure is not what is intended here. Could you elaborate on where these roots come from please? kind regards. Chris
On 14 Jun 2013, at 20:06, Ken Penner wrote:
Do the following help?
Joüon §59g: "In the light of Ugr. tštḥwy “she prostrates herself,” what used to be considered hitpa̧ʿlẹl, represented almost entirely by the frequent הִשְׁתַּחֲוָה to worship, to prostrate oneself, is most likely a Hištafʿel of √ חוי."
Joüon §79t:
"Verb חיה: Hištafʿel form הִשְׁתַּחֲוָה to bow down, to prostrate oneself, to worship.
The original root is חוי, i.e. ל״י (cf. § a). The conjugation is hištafʿel (§ 59g; not Hitpaʿlel). The form expresses the causative reflexive action to bow down, to prostrate oneself().
In the perfect the primitive form is hištaḥway. The future *yištaḥway has become יִשְׁתַּחֲוֶה (3rd pl. יִשְׁתַּחֲווּ). The apocopated form is *yišta'ḥw, in which the consonantal w becomes the vowel u: וַיִּשְׁתַּ֫חוּ.
Observation. In 2Kg 5.18 הִשְׁתַּחֲוָיָתִי the inf. has been vocalised in Biblical Aramaic fashion (wrongly, actually, for with the suffixes the inf. takes the ending ūt(). After a scribe had wrongly spelled וי, this sequence was later vocalised mechanically in the Aramaic fashion. One should read (in the 3rd pers.) הִשְׁתַּחֲווֹתוֹ."
Dear Members,
I wonder if somebody would be kind enough to direct me in understanding why the verb שחה in the Hitpael is often found with a seghol Heh ending in the 1st person plural.
For example: Gen 22:5 we worship.... נִשְתָחַוֶה when
the expected is NiSHTaCHU with the normal 1st person plural ending.
I have Gesenius but it is hard to know under precisely what category of grammar I should be looking for because my searches for an answer have come up empty. If he does mention it then I would welcome a reference. Thankyou for your time.
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[b-hebrew] Hitpael 1st pers plural bow down/worship,
Chris Watts, 06/14/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] Hitpael 1st pers plural bow down/worship,
Ken Penner, 06/14/2013
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