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- From: Stephen Shead <sshead.email AT gmail.com>
- To: Timothy Lawson <lostntym8 AT hotmail.com>
- Cc: "b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org" <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] G. Geroux and the Name
- Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 10:32:23 +1000
Dear Scott,
You said to Bryant:
>> The information you present is interesting but seemingly not directly related to the point I made that κύριος ο θεός by its poor grammatical construction which also appears in the NT text. This may be a possible indication that YHVH has been removed from the Greek of the LXX.
>> The information you present is interesting but seemingly not directly related to the point I made that κύριος ο θεός by its poor grammatical construction which also appears in the NT text. This may be a possible indication that YHVH has been removed from the Greek of the LXX.
Style (or "poor grammatical construction") is a perilous basis for this kind of argument - especially in a case like this, where we are talking about a highly special word/construction, which the author is likely to treat with particular reverence. That is, (1) how are we to know just how awkward-sounding a particular Greek phrase would have been to a Second Temple bilingual Jewish ear? and (2) Even if it was awkward grammar in certain contexts, mightn't that have been considered appropriate for such a sacred phrase?
The fact that the LXX is a translation makes it even more perilous. Either the original translators chose κύριος ο θεός, or a later copyist did. Either way, the person who made this choice was at least a Greek speaker (maybe native, maybe bilingual, maybe not). If it's clunky grammar, presumably they could have picked a grammatically smoother construction, but chose not to, for whatever reason. Why is it more likely that a later copyist would have made this choice, rather than an earlier translator?
Best regards,
Stephen.
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[b-hebrew] G. Geroux and the Name,
Rev. Bryant J. Williams III, 06/09/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] G. Geroux and the Name,
Timothy Lawson, 06/09/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] G. Geroux and the Name,
Stephen Shead, 06/09/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] G. Geroux and the Name,
Timothy Lawson, 06/09/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] G. Geroux and the Name,
Jerry Shepherd, 06/09/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] G. Geroux and the Name,
Timothy Lawson, 06/09/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] G. Geroux and the Name,
Jerry Shepherd, 06/09/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] G. Geroux and the Name, Timothy Lawson, 06/10/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] G. Geroux and the Name, Jerry Shepherd, 06/10/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] G. Geroux and the Name, Rolf, 06/10/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] G. Geroux and the Name, Jerry Shepherd, 06/12/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] G. Geroux and the Name, Rolf, 06/13/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] G. Geroux and the Name, Yigal Levin, 06/13/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] G. Geroux and the Name,
Jerry Shepherd, 06/09/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] G. Geroux and the Name,
Timothy Lawson, 06/09/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] G. Geroux and the Name,
Jerry Shepherd, 06/09/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] G. Geroux and the Name,
Timothy Lawson, 06/09/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] G. Geroux and the Name,
Stephen Shead, 06/09/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] G. Geroux and the Name,
Timothy Lawson, 06/09/2013
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