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- From: Yohanan bin-Dawidh <yohanan.bin.dawidh AT gmail.com>
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- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] G.Gertoux and the Name...
- Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2013 22:50:48 -0500
Hello Curt;
I, personally, do not trust or fancy any opinion that is put for by Jeff Benner, or his followers.
There is a notion that if the Shewa in YHWH, which usually gets translated as an “e” as in Yehovah/Yehowa, is actually a Shewa Nah, then it takes on the vowel sound of the following vowel within the word. If the following vowel within the word is a Holem, i.e. “o” sound, then the Shewa Nah would likewise make this sound, but this only applies if it is a Shewa Nah, and according to some scholars of Tiberian Hebrew, such is the case in the Tetragrammaton.
Regards,
Yohanan bin-Dawidh
Thanks for the reply :-)
I have read some articles that suggest that the Tetragrammaton is pronounced accordingly to the context of the text. I thought it was interesting.
I have read a lot of Jeff Benner (sp)?
And how he believes it is Yihweh. I think he says it the shorter form of Yeheweh?
For a long time I pronounced YHWH as Yahweh. It wasn't until I read G. Gertoux that I went to using Yehouah (Yehuwah).
I'm not claiming that I have it right. Looking forward to Messiah coming and letting us know the correct way :-)
What is the shewa Na' or shewa Nah debate?
Thanks,
Curt
From: yohanan.bin.dawidh AT gmail.com
Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2013 20:01:46 -0500
CC: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] G.Gertoux and the Name...Shavu’a Tov Curt;
Nehemia Gordon believes the Tetragrammaton was/should be pronounced as Yehovah/Yehowah, based upon his notion that the Karaite Ba’al ha-Masorah, Aharon ben-Mosheh ben-‘Asher, would not have in good conscious defiled the Miq’ra. This might very well be the case, but this does not account for the various places within the Aleppo Codex where the Tetragrammaton is written with different pronunciations (Y’howah is used 29 times | Yehwih is used 304 times | Yehowih is used once at Judges 16:28 | Y’howih is used 23 times | Y’hwih is used 207 times | Y’hwah is used 6,268 times). Then, again, maybe the name has different pronunciations at different locations due to the language used in those locations, but this still would not account for Nehemia Gordon's stance on the subject.
Plus there is a debate of whether the Tetragrammaton utilizes a Shewa Na’ or Shewa Nah, which would change it’s pronunciation with regards to Tiberian Hebrew, which is what Aharon ben-Mosheh ben-‘Asher utilized.
There is, also, some argument toward the notion that the Tetragrammaton is not actually Hebrew, but is the 3rd person imperfect of the Aramaic HWH, which would actually cause it to be pronounced as יֶהֱוֶה, i.e. YeHeWeH.
Linguistically it cannot be Yahouah, but if you received it in a dream this way, I am sure no one can talk you out of pronouncing it this way.
Regards,
Yohanan bin-Dawidh
Fort Worth, Texas
On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Curt Bussey <spokenfor78 AT hotmail.com> wrote:
I was wondering what your concluding thoughts were on this? I am currently under the opinion of pronouncing it as Yehouah (the waw as oo as in pool).Interestingly though, years ago I used to pronounce the Name Yehovah due to Nehemia Gordon's book. In a dream I was proclaiming it and a messenger told me it was Yehouvah, stressing the ouv part?What do you think?Thanks for your time. I can't find too many people to discuss these things with. I appreciate any help. Thank you.Curt
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