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- From: jimstinehart AT aol.com
- To: George.Athas AT moore.edu.au, b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Ssade Can Be Emphatic Sin
- Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 21:57:35 -0500 (EST)
George Athas wrote: “Conventional
wisdom, which is followed by approximately 99% of folk, places Akhnaton in the
14th century BC.”
Yes! However, before
anyone starts accusing me again of going mainstream [but which I always am historically,
by the way], let me hurry to add that the analysis in my preceding post of four
Egyptian names strongly suggests that the Patriarchal narratives were to a
large extent composed in Year 14, and that the Patriarchal Age historically is
the Amarna Age [in the mid-14th century BCE]. If so, then for the first time we can figure
out where “Goshen”/G$-N is located.
The final -N in G$-N is likely a west Semitic ending that
effectively means “place”. G$-N refers
to a place in Egypt that is a largely rural area in the general vicinity of G$. To the best of my knowledge, the only
Egyptian locale that fits Hebrew G$ linguistically is Qis [the misleading
English transliteration of the Egyptian name that will be the focus of this
post]. Qis is the capital city of nome
#14, located in central Egypt just south of Amarna on the west bank of the Nile
River.
The two true consonants in the Egyptian city name “Qis” are as follows. First is Egyptian Q, which is the Egyptian hieroglyph
that is the first letter of item #104 on the mid-15th
century BCE Tuthmose III list of places in Canaan [less than a century before
the Amarna Age]. That’s Gazru, with a G,
per many Amarna Letters (e.g. EA 253: 22).
And of critical importance Biblically, that city name is GZR, with a
gimel/G, in Hebrew (e.g. Joshua 10: 33).
The second true Egyptian consonant in Qis is the Egyptian sibilant at item #28 on the
Thutmose III list. The direct Hebrew
equivalent of this item’s name is ($TRT, at Genesis 14: 5. Amarna Letter EA 197: 10 similarly has
A$tartu. So that second consonant is
shin/$. Voila, we’ve got it! Qis in Egyptian is equivalent to
G$/gimel-shin in early Biblical Hebrew.
Based on the foregoing, the Egyptian city name “Qis” is a perfect
linguistic match to the Hebrew word “Goshen”/G$-N that appears 10 times in the
Patriarchal narratives. As far as I
know, there is no other potential linguistic match of G$-N to any other Egyptian
geographical locale, prior to the 5th century BCE or so.
On a textual basis, Qis as Biblical Goshen fits the storyline of
the Patriarchal narratives if and only if the Patriarchal Age is the Amarna
Age. A sleepy rural place, near Egypt’s
capital city, would be the most logical place for Hebrews to sojourn in Egypt,
where they tended Pharaoh’s livestock. The
Amarna Age is the only time period in history in which it would make any sense
at all for the Hebrews to be sojourning so far south in central Egypt. If the Patriarchal Age is the Amarna Age, and
if the bulk of the Patriarchal narratives was composed in Year 14, then
everything about Qis is a perfect historical and linguistic match to Biblical Goshen in every
way, all the way. Yes!
Otherwise, G$-N is just another inexplicable 3,000-year-old
Biblical mystery in the Patriarchal narratives.
Jim Stinehart
Evanston, Illinois
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[b-hebrew] Ssade Can Be Emphatic Sin,
jimstinehart, 11/18/2012
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Re: [b-hebrew] Ssade Can Be Emphatic Sin,
JimStinehart, 11/20/2012
- Re: [b-hebrew] Ssade Can Be Emphatic Sin, K Randolph, 11/21/2012
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Re: [b-hebrew] Ssade Can Be Emphatic Sin,
Isaac Fried, 11/21/2012
- Re: [b-hebrew] Ssade Can Be Emphatic Sin, jimstinehart, 11/21/2012
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Re: [b-hebrew] Ssade Can Be Emphatic Sin,
JimStinehart, 11/21/2012
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Re: [b-hebrew] Ssade Can Be Emphatic Sin,
K Randolph, 11/23/2012
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Re: [b-hebrew] Ssade Can Be Emphatic Sin,
George Athas, 11/23/2012
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Re: [b-hebrew] Ssade Can Be Emphatic Sin,
jimstinehart, 11/23/2012
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[b-hebrew] Akhnaton,
Isaac Fried, 11/24/2012
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- Re: [b-hebrew] Akhnaton, Isaac Fried, 11/25/2012
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Re: [b-hebrew] Akhnaton,
jimstinehart, 11/25/2012
- Re: [b-hebrew] Akhnaton, Isaac Fried, 11/25/2012
- Re: [b-hebrew] Akhnaton - END THREAD, Yigal Levin, 11/25/2012
- Re: [b-hebrew] Akhnaton - END THREAD, K Randolph, 11/26/2012
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[b-hebrew] Akhnaton,
Isaac Fried, 11/24/2012
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Re: [b-hebrew] Ssade Can Be Emphatic Sin,
jimstinehart, 11/23/2012
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Re: [b-hebrew] Ssade Can Be Emphatic Sin,
George Athas, 11/23/2012
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Re: [b-hebrew] Ssade Can Be Emphatic Sin,
K Randolph, 11/23/2012
- Re: [b-hebrew] Ssade Can Be Emphatic Sin, Rev. Bryant J. Williams III, 11/24/2012
- Re: [b-hebrew] Ssade Can Be Emphatic Sin, K Randolph, 11/24/2012
- Re: [b-hebrew] Ssade Can Be Emphatic Sin, K Randolph, 11/24/2012
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