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  • From: Pere Porta <pporta7 AT gmail.com>
  • To: Jerry Shepherd <jshepherd53 AT gmail.com>
  • Cc: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] 3ms vs 1cp pronominal suffixes on yiqtol
  • Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 07:30:14 +0100

Yes, the suffix [segol, nun with dagesh forte, shuruq] refers to 3rd. person singular masculine.
For the 1st plural common often the pattern [tsere, nun, shuruq] is used.
Compare
http://www.oham.net/out/PS-t/PS-t0944.html
http://www.oham.net/out/PS-t/PS-t0943.html
 
to see the difference.
These patterns are pointed exactly the same except for just the ending we're dealing with.
 
Friendly,
 
Pere Porta
(Barcelona, Catalonia, Northeastern Spain)

2012/11/5 Jerry Shepherd <jshepherd53 AT gmail.com>
Hi Charles,
 
You've raised a very interesting question.  I did a search in my BibleWorks, and while I cannot claim it is exhaustive, I couldn't find a single instance where this suffix on a finite verb is 1cpl.  For years now I've assumed and taught that the suffix is ambiguous.  I imagine that the supposed ambiguity comes from the occurrence of the suffix on the preposition min.  But, as far as I can tell, the suffix does not represent 1cpl on verbs.  In your particular example, I suppose the 3ms suffix can, as is sometimes the case with 3ms suffixes generally, refer to a plural entity.  And I see that several translations take it that way.
 
Blessings,
 
Jerry
 
Jerry Shepherd
Taylor Seminary
Edmonton, Alberta
 


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