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Re: [b-hebrew] 3ms vs 1cp pronominal suffixes on yiqtol
- From: Charles Grebe <animatedhebrew AT gmail.com>
- To: Jerry Shepherd <jshepherd53 AT gmail.com>
- Cc: b-hebrew <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] 3ms vs 1cp pronominal suffixes on yiqtol
- Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 12:07:46 -0500
Yes, I too have taught that the ennu suffix with the so-called energic-nun is ambiguous. I've looked at all the grammars I have and they say very little. Gesenius mentions only one possible example in Job 31:15 (see page 158, section 58k).
With regard to Ps 12, the NIV/ESV etc could be following the LXX. It is interesting that the LXX and a few late medieval Hebrew manuscripts make it explicitly plural.
Charles
Maniwaki, QC
On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Jerry Shepherd <jshepherd53 AT gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Charles,You've raised a very interesting question. I did a search in my BibleWorks, and while I cannot claim it is exhaustive, I couldn't find a single instance where this suffix on a finite verb is 1cpl. For years now I've assumed and taught that the suffix is ambiguous. I imagine that the supposed ambiguity comes from the occurrence of the suffix on the preposition min. But, as far as I can tell, the suffix does not represent 1cpl on verbs. In your particular example, I suppose the 3ms suffix can, as is sometimes the case with 3ms suffixes generally, refer to a plural entity. And I see that several translations take it that way.Blessings,JerryJerry ShepherdTaylor SeminaryEdmonton, Alberta
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[b-hebrew] 3ms vs 1cp pronominal suffixes on yiqtol,
Charles Grebe, 11/05/2012
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Re: [b-hebrew] 3ms vs 1cp pronominal suffixes on yiqtol,
Jerry Shepherd, 11/05/2012
- Re: [b-hebrew] 3ms vs 1cp pronominal suffixes on yiqtol, Pere Porta, 11/06/2012
- Re: [b-hebrew] 3ms vs 1cp pronominal suffixes on yiqtol, Charles Grebe, 11/06/2012
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Re: [b-hebrew] 3ms vs 1cp pronominal suffixes on yiqtol,
Van Parunak, 11/06/2012
- Re: [b-hebrew] 3ms vs 1cp pronominal suffixes on yiqtol, Charles Grebe, 11/06/2012
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Re: [b-hebrew] 3ms vs 1cp pronominal suffixes on yiqtol,
Jerry Shepherd, 11/05/2012
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