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- From: Pere Porta <pporta7 AT gmail.com>
- To: Charles Grebe <cgrebe AT briercrest.ca>
- Cc: "b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org" <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>, Donald Vance <donaldrvance AT me.com>
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] 2 Sam 7:3 qamets or qamets-hatuph
- Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 06:49:48 +0100
We have to carefully distingish two cases:
1. In nouns
2. In verbs
Case 1. In nouns:
There are three noun kinds (*) that keep the qamats of the basic noun when
they take the -K suffix:
Look for some examples at Ps 55:23; 1Sm 9:10; Gn 40:19
Here it is a qamats and sounds as vowel "a".
(*) If you wish to know the detailed list ask me (offlist?)
Case 2. In verbs.
There are two different cases:
A. The 3rd person singular masculine of "normal" verbs + K. Look for
samples in 1Sm 24:11; 2Sm 18:31; Pr 3:30.
It keeps the qamats of the basic verb form and therefore it sounds as vowel
"a"
B. Infinitives + suffix K
Here we have a qamats-hatuph and therefore it sounds as vowel "o". Look at
Ex 23:20 or at 1Sm 25:29
Kind regards from
Pere Porta
(Barcelona, Catalonia, Northeastern Spain)
> Oh, how true. I've fallen for that one before too. I must look for that
> missing dagesh lene! :)
>
> Charles Grebe
>
>
> It is not in a closed syllable, therefore it is a qamats. The schwa under
> the third bet is vocal (or at least medial) as indicated by the absence of
> a dagesh lene in the kaph.
>
>
> Donald R. Vance
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[b-hebrew] 2 Sam 7:3 qamets or qamets-hatuph,
Charles Grebe, 01/20/2012
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Re: [b-hebrew] 2 Sam 7:3 qamets or qamets-hatuph,
Charles Grebe, 01/20/2012
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Re: [b-hebrew] 2 Sam 7:3 qamets or qamets-hatuph,
Pere Porta, 01/21/2012
- Re: [b-hebrew] 2 Sam 7:3 qamets or qamets-hatuph, Charles Grebe, 01/21/2012
- Re: [b-hebrew] 2 Sam 7:3 qamets or qamets-hatuph, Isaac Fried, 01/21/2012
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Re: [b-hebrew] 2 Sam 7:3 qamets or qamets-hatuph,
Pere Porta, 01/21/2012
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Re: [b-hebrew] 2 Sam 7:3 qamets or qamets-hatuph,
Charles Grebe, 01/20/2012
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- Re: [b-hebrew] 2 Sam 7:3 qamets or qamets-hatuph, Isaac Fried, 01/21/2012
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