Biblical Hebrew Forum

[fred burlingame <tensorpath AT gmail.com>]

Hello Nir;

Thanks for your nice analysis.

You could be correct.

I wonder however, when these passages were read to the assembled
congregation in 11 a.d. whether they were expected (or in fact did) capture
the subtlety and complexity of that you describe.

As with any language read to another person(s), the constant stream of words
permits reflective analysis of one word not ...
There must be some simple rendering of these words that the assembly
momentarily heard and immediately digested in their minds, as the flow of
speaking continued:

a. "he used to give?;"

b. "he shall give?;"

c. "he would give?;"

d. "he gave?;

e. "I create.?

regards,


fred burlingame

On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Nir cohen - Prof. Mat. 
<nir AT ccet.ufrn.br>wrote:

> *isaac, fred,
>
> 1) 1 sam 1:5
>
> On Fri, 4 Feb 2011 07:34:30 -0500, Isaac Fried wrote*
>  > 1. First of all you are instructed to recognize YI as 'he', referring
> to EL-KAN-AH. Then you are instructed to recognize TEN as 'give'. Then you
> are instructed to use your, God given, ample intelligence to get the
> picture.
> > 2. SAGAR is devoid of identity markers and is therefore preceded by 'and
> God'.
> >
> > Isaac Fried, Boston University
> >
> > On Feb 3, 2011, at 4:05 PM, fred burlingame wrote:
>
>
> > a. first verb; prefixed form; yi-ten, יתן . The context of that verb
> > instructs me to read "he gave."
>
> as i see it, the choice of future tense here serves two purposes:
> 1) style: avoiding a second use of the PA'AL  form, given the "natan" in
> the previous verse.
> 2) aspect: to emphasize the repetitive nature of the giving action, along
> with the expression "miyamim yamima" which
> precedes this verse. english would rather choose here "he used to give" or
> even "he would give".
>
> 2) isa 65:17:
>
> i guess the choice of present form of "bore" (i create) serves two purposes
> related to aspect:
> 1) to hint that the creation process has already begun (at least as a plan)
>
> 2) to contrast this creation with the forgetting of the old world, which
> would only occur after this creation
> had been terminated.
>
> nir cohen
>
>