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Re: [b-hebrew] fred on 2 tenses at the same sentence
- From: fred burlingame <tensorpath AT gmail.com>
- To: Isaac Fried <if AT math.bu.edu>
- Cc: b-hebrew List <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] fred on 2 tenses at the same sentence
- Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 22:04:40 -0600
that is my understanding of the conventional wisdom ... the ebb and flow of
the tide:
1. לקח , la-ka = base form of verb, pronomial suffix form (but without
pronoun appearing in this instance), and instructing past tense;
2. יקח , yi-ka = iteration no. 1, pronomial prefix form of verb, with
pronoun yod appearing and instructing future tense;
3. ויקח , va-yi-ka = iteration no. 2, pronomial prefix form of verb, with
pronoun yod appearing, and conjunction vav also prefixed, which converts
verb back into past tense.
regards,
fred burlingame
On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 9:49 PM, Isaac Fried <if AT math.bu.edu> wrote:
> Do you mean the vav in VA-YI-QAX (Genesis 25:1), that "coverts" YI-QAX? Is
> the YI in YI-QAX also a yod conversive turning the imperative QAX into the
> future YI-QAX?
>
> Isaac Fried, boston University
>
> On Feb 1, 2011, at 10:19 PM, fred burlingame wrote:
>
> I suppose that:
>
> a. genesis 25:1 (past tense, pronomial prefix verb form?); and
>
> b. isaiah 2:4 (future tense, pronomial suffix verb form?);
>
> exemplify the two forms with "converting" vav attached as prefix.
>
> regards,
>
> fred burlingame
>
> On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 8:48 PM, Isaac Fried <if AT math.bu.edu> wrote:
>
>> This sounds remarkable. Could you give us an examples of this vav for both
>> conversions?
>>
>> Isaac Fried, Boston University
>>
>> On Feb 1, 2011, at 8:13 PM, fred burlingame wrote:
>>
>> lol ...
>>
>> i don't know ...
>>
>> that's the conventional wisdom ...
>>
>> the vav prefix converts pronoun prefixed verbs from future to past tense;
>> and pronoun suffixed verbs from past to future tense ....
>>
>> i gather you have not subscribed to that program?
>>
>> regards,
>>
>> fred burlingame
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 6:59 PM, Isaac Fried <if AT math.bu.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> What is this vav conversive? Is it converting something?
>>>
>>> Isaac Fried, Boston University
>>>
>>> On Feb 1, 2011, at 7:39 PM, fred burlingame wrote:
>>>
>>> iii. the vav conversive.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Re: [b-hebrew] fred on 2 tenses at the same sentence
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Re: [b-hebrew] fred on 2 tenses at the same sentence,
fred burlingame, 02/01/2011
- Re: [b-hebrew] fred on 2 tenses at the same sentence, fred burlingame, 02/01/2011
- Re: [b-hebrew] fred on 2 tenses at the same sentence, K Randolph, 02/01/2011
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Re: [b-hebrew] fred on 2 tenses at the same sentence,
Isaac Fried, 02/01/2011
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Re: [b-hebrew] fred on 2 tenses at the same sentence,
fred burlingame, 02/01/2011
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Re: [b-hebrew] fred on 2 tenses at the same sentence,
Isaac Fried, 02/01/2011
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Re: [b-hebrew] fred on 2 tenses at the same sentence,
fred burlingame, 02/01/2011
- Re: [b-hebrew] fred on 2 tenses at the same sentence, Isaac Fried, 02/01/2011
- Re: [b-hebrew] fred on 2 tenses at the same sentence, fred burlingame, 02/01/2011
- Re: [b-hebrew] fred on 2 tenses at the same sentence, Isaac Fried, 02/01/2011
- Re: [b-hebrew] fred on 2 tenses at the same sentence, fred burlingame, 02/01/2011
- Re: [b-hebrew] fred on 2 tenses at the same sentence, Isaac Fried, 02/01/2011
- Re: [b-hebrew] fred on 2 tenses at the same sentence, fred burlingame, 02/01/2011
- Re: [b-hebrew] fred on 2 tenses at the same sentence, Isaac Fried, 02/02/2011
- Re: [b-hebrew] fred on 2 tenses at the same sentence, fred burlingame, 02/02/2011
- Re: [b-hebrew] fred on 2 tenses at the same sentence, Isaac Fried, 02/02/2011
- Re: [b-hebrew] fred on 2 tenses at the same sentence, fred burlingame, 02/02/2011
- Re: [b-hebrew] fred on 2 tenses at the same sentence, Isaac Fried, 02/02/2011
- Re: [b-hebrew] fred on 2 tenses at the same sentence, fred burlingame, 02/02/2011
- Re: [b-hebrew] fred on 2 tenses at the same sentence, Isaac Fried, 02/02/2011
- Re: [b-hebrew] fred on 2 tenses at the same sentence, fred burlingame, 02/02/2011
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Re: [b-hebrew] fred on 2 tenses at the same sentence,
fred burlingame, 02/01/2011
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Re: [b-hebrew] fred on 2 tenses at the same sentence,
Isaac Fried, 02/01/2011
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Re: [b-hebrew] fred on 2 tenses at the same sentence,
fred burlingame, 02/01/2011
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Re: [b-hebrew] fred on 2 tenses at the same sentence,
fred burlingame, 02/01/2011
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