Biblical Hebrew Forum

[James Christian <jc.bhebrew AT googlemail.com>]

Northern English dialects. Being a native of English I've never had to take
a TOEFL test.

In any case, surely you meant to ask 'How *well* do you perform on the TOEFL
test'. 'How much' sounds like you're asking me how often I perform on the
test. At least in my version of the English language it does.

Anyway, anything to say about manuscript dating using philology or pottery
shards? I take it you disagree with my reservations but I'm still not quite
sure why.

James Christian

On 25 July 2010 21:16, Arnaud Fournet <fournet.arnaud AT wanadoo.fr> wrote:

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> ----- Original Message ----- From: James Christian
> To: Arnaud Fournet
> Cc: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 5:57 PM
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> Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] T-SADE
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> As far as I understood it Arnaud you was
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> As far as I understand this language
> it should be *you were*
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> How much do you perform on the TOEFL test?
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> Please try to learn the language on the list.
> You may not succeed, but you have the right to learn.
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> Many thanks.
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> A.
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> asking my opinion on the early dating of Codex Vaticanus and the relevance
> of the tsade issue to its dating. I answered you openly about the problems
> with dating raising relevant issues about how reliable pottery based and
> philology based dating can be. You then, completely unnecessarily, belittled
> those genuine issues with an overly sarcastic and completely irrelevant
> response. If you don't see how that style was offensive then I won't be
> expecting any apologies from you any time in the near future. Just as I
> won't be expecting you to objectively engage in a discussion about the
> reliability of the dating systems used to date MSS (given your unhelpful
> response).
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> Now, regarding Jim while my response may have been harshly worded and there
> could have been better variants than 'hijacked' to politely say the same
> thing and this poor choice of language led Yigal to rightly tell me off for
> it you can rest assured that my feelings about the way Jim turns just about
> every interesting thread into a discussion about his theory of the
> patriarchal narratives are shared by just about every active participant who
> has tried to interact with his theories. You have only recently started to
> interact with his theories (it's been going on for about 3 years now) but
> you can rest assured after you have seen 10 or so threads you open about
> something completely unrelated turn into yet another presentation of Jim's
> theories you will most likely see things from a better angle and will better
> sympathise with my poor choice of words.
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> Now, I'm willing to let you have the last word in this pointless and
> bandwidth consuming discussion about list etiquette but I would much rather
> see you interacting with my genuine concerns about dating systems. Have you
> really studied pottery and philology based dating schemes to the point where
> you can understand and defend them and use conclusions based on them as a
> reliable foundational starting point for discussions? I have yet another
> doubt. I doubt that you have. I also doubt that you be willing to do so. Or
> that you will be willing to engage in a fruitful discussion which would lead
> us both (and others who participate in the discussion) to learn more about
> dating of MSS and give us a better foundation to base discussions on. I
> would whole heartedly welcome that you disappoint me and show me that my
> latest doubts are completely unfounded. We could then stop bickering and
> etiquette and learn something together.
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>
> James Christian
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> Best Regards
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> Arnaud Fournet
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