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  • From: "Bryant J. Williams III" <bjwvmw AT com-pair.net>
  • To: "James Christian" <jc.bhebrew AT googlemail.com>, "Yitzhak Sapir" <yitzhaksapir AT gmail.com>
  • Cc: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Initial Consonant Clusters in Biblical Hebrew
  • Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 15:49:45 -0700

Dear Yitzhak,

[Yitzhak said],
You and Karl and James have a habit of saying something is likely when really
you have no evidence for it at all. That's now how it works in scholarship!

[Bryant]
If the above is what you believe to be true, then so be it. BUT that should
NOT
have been said where every one on the list can read i; I could understand in a
privately sent e-mail. I, for one, did not appreciate the tone and accusation
behind the above statement. I truly believe that an apologie is in order, not
only to the gentlemen above, but also to the list.

Furthermore, if the moderators think that I overstepped, then accept my
apologies in advance.

Thank you,

Rev. Bryant J. Williams III

----- Original Message -----
From: "James Christian" <jc.bhebrew AT googlemail.com>
To: "Yitzhak Sapir" <yitzhaksapir AT gmail.com>
Cc: <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 4:38 AM
Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Initial Consonant Clusters in Biblical Hebrew


> Also, thanks for your announcement "That's now how it works in
> scholarship!". Many of us were wondering why you presented theories lacking
> evidence as fact. Your announcement seems to explain to us why you feel this
> approach is scholarly. For those of us who were still behind and not up to
> date with how present scholarship works we were still under the misguided
> impression that you needed evidence and were wasting our time with
> presenting it to you. We won't bother anymore as we now know that this is an
> exercise in futility given your summary of how modern scholarship works.
>
> "saying something is likely when really you have no evidence for
> it at all. That's now how it works in scholarship!"
>
> James Christian
>
> On 13 June 2010 11:24, James Christian <jc.bhebrew AT googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Yitzhak,
> >
> > not "likely" that there was an /sh/ either. You and Karl and James have
> >> a habit of saying something is likely when really you have no evidence
> >> for
> >> it at all. That's now how it works in scholarship!
> >
> >
> > Excuse me! Was that attack at me absolutely necessary? I wasn't even
> > participating in this discussion. Not only is your statement offensive but
> > completely contrary to every participation I've made in discussions on
> > this
> > list. Any time I have offered a critique on your position it has been
> > based
> > on data and so your statement is completely unwarranted and not only
> > gratuitously offensive. I think you've just made it onto my list of people
> > not worth bothering replying to anymore. A shame really. In the past I
> > enjoyed debating with you.
> >
> > Anyway, I've invited list members to turn theoretical knowledge into
> > something practical by getting involved in working with producing a
> > generation grammar for b-hebrew. Of all the list members I thought could
> > benefit from this exercise you, with your constant theoretical statements
> > lacking data, were the person I thought could benefit the most from
> > getting
> > involved in such an exercise. I was more than a little disappointed to see
> > that instead of accepting such an invitation for an experience you could
> > learn from you decided to insult me in a thread I had nothing to with and
> > no
> > intention of getting involved in.
> >
> > James Christian
> >
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